We Should Have Listened To Padre Solalinde, Father Patrick Murphy and Sergio Tamai: The Migrantes Were Deceived By Extremists of Pueblo Sin Fronteras

This will be quick because it is late here, but I wanted to get some things down and give you some links before the storm arrives and we lose power here.

First up (if you haven't read these reports already), the Democracy Now! coverage of events in Tijuana, with special coverage of the US intervention into Honduran affairs and Dana Frank's book which illustrate how the US intervention has completely influenced the migrante exodus. Still have not heard much on that subject in the MSM.

 Please note Honduran President Hernandez's brother arrested on cocaine trafficking charges.  Must run in the family. I think I ended the last blog by linking a report that President Hernandez wants an investigation into USBP firing rubber bullets at the migrantes  - really?  Since when has Hernandez or Jimmy "The Rat" Morales, President of Guatemala ever been concerned over the migrantes?

Democracy Now !

Immigration|Democracy Now


~~~~~

I mentioned last blog that my neighbors (and many others...I was on the fence but not completely dismissing this theory)) thought last Sunday's catastrophic events were produced by Trump himself to insure he would attain his "Wall" agenda.  Not so fast.  On last Saturday, Sergio Tamai of Mexicali, founder of Angeles Sin Fronteras and also speaking for the Alianza Migrante Tijuana asked Irineo Mujica of Pueblo Sin Fronteras to reconsider and cancel the planned demonstration as the results would benefit Trump's agenda, and defeat the intentions of the migrantes.

 - From: El Sol de Tijuana:

Pide Angeles sin Frontera que Migrantes No Se Manifestan


Almost a week before the demonstration, Sergio shared the information with Telemundo 20 of San Diego that a masse crossing was being planned at SYPOE, who passed it along to Fox News and other right wing news outlets. Here, because of Telemundo 20 the information went viral and scared people.

 - From Fox News:

Migrant Caravan Members May Be Planning 'Human Stampede' At US Border: Aid Group

~~~~~

 - But it wasn't just a free for all.  Both Padre Solalinde and Father Patrick Murphy (Casa Del Migrante/Padre Chavas Tijuana) have condemned Pueblos Sin Fronteras - or at least a faction of that group who Padre Solalinde calls "extremists" with irresponsible and unforgivable behavior, of exploiting and deceiving the migrantes to forward their own political agenda.  For the longest time, I agreed with Univision that this caravan was not organized by any group. I should have listened to the Padres.

 - From Frontera:

Lamenta Padre Murphy El Engano a Mgrantes de Caravana


Pasted:


" Father Patrick Murphy, director of the Casa del Migrante, lamented that the families of the Central American caravan have been tricked into entering the United States through a humanitarian asylum.

That has been noticed because people do not have their documentation and are unaware of the process, they also believed that in three days they would be in the American Union.

Like the priest and activist Alejandro Solalinde, Muphy railed against the organization Pueblos Sin Fronteras for allegedly organizing the exodus and bringing him to Tijuana.

"They did not inform them very well. They made false promises.

Cross in three days? I always had my suspicions, why are they doing that? Why not seek a dialogue with those who work at the border? They have a very political strategy and want to enter forces and this time it will not happen again, "he said.

The asylum process lasts a long time and very few will receive it, for what others will have for their Mexican dream, he added.

He explained that this situation will increase the work of the pro-migrant civil associations, who will have to support those people who fulfill their Mexican dream when establishing in the city.

Hence, he proposed that the governments of Mexico, the United States and Central America should generate actions to serve their communities.

The director of the Casa del Migrante said that Tijuana always arrives migrants of different nationalities, the difference is that this time they did it in caravans, in which they exceed 6 thousand members.

In that sense, he described as slow the preparation of the authorities to deal with the migrant exodus.

"The response of the authorities has been extremely slow.

For more than a month, every Thursday, we started having meetings with the shelters and the government of the three levels, there were always many promises. I always insisted that we make decisions because the migrants were going to arrive and that was no secret, "said the father.
~~~~~

Worse, Padre Solalinde offered up this information days earlier through several interviews where he also brings up trafficking in arms and people  - at least by what he describes are "extremists" within Pueblos Sin Fronteras.

 - From Mexico.com:

Migrantes Son Utilizados Por Pueblo Sin Fronteras Para Trafica Armas: Solalinde


~~~~~

What next?  Apparently there is rumor that some of the migrantes will participate in a  hunger strike starting today, Frontera will update us.  Meanwhile, we were in Tijuana yesterday after my Doctors appointment and to say it is tense is an understatement.  You could cut the tension with a knife and people are frightened.

Right now it just started raining, it is supposed to come down heavy during the day - what will happen to the migrantes?  If someone doesn't find shelter for them, they are going to be soaking and freezing  from the rain.  Here are some links, you can read about the birth in the camp, the outbreak of chicken pox and other health issues at the baseball field, and after the disaster on Sunday, 100+ migrantes leave Tijuana and Mexico on their own accord. Dreams broken, thanks Pueblo Sin Fronteras Extremists Idiots !!

 I am so angry at this Pueblos Sin Fronteras I could scream...but I am also wondering if they hired the strongmen to infiltrate the caravana from President of Guatemala Jimmy "The Rat" Moreles and President Hernandez's  (the puppets of the USA.) criminal gangs.

El Sol de Tijuana:

Caravana Migrante


Frontera:

Caravana Migrante 

~~~~~

We Should Have Listened To Padre Solalinde, Father Patrick Murphy and Sergio Tamai: The Migrantes Were Deceived By Extremists of Pueblo Sin Fronteras

This will be quick because it is late here, but I wanted to get some things down and give you some links before the storm arrives and we lose power here.

First up (if you haven't read these reports already), the Democracy Now! coverage of events in Tijuana, with special coverage of the US intervention into Honduran affairs and Dana Frank's book which illustrate how the US intervention has completely influenced the migrante exodus. Still have not heard much on that subject in the MSM.

 Please note Honduran President Hernandez's brother arrested on cocaine trafficking charges.  Must run in the family. I think I ended the last blog by linking a report that President Hernandez wants an investigation into USBP firing rubber bullets at the migrantes  - really?  Since when has Hernandez or Jimmy "The Rat" Morales, President of Guatemala ever been concerned over the migrantes?

Democracy Now !

Immigration|Democracy Now


~~~~~

I mentioned last blog that my neighbors (and many others...I was on the fence but not completely dismissing this theory)) thought last Sunday's catastrophic events were produced by Trump himself to insure he would attain his "Wall" agenda.  Not so fast.  On last Saturday, Sergio Tamai of Mexicali, founder of Angeles Sin Fronteras and also speaking for the Alianza Migrante Tijuana asked Irineo Mujica of Pueblo Sin Fronteras to reconsider and cancel the planned demonstration as the results would benefit Trump's agenda, and defeat the intentions of the migrantes.

 - From: El Sol de Tijuana:

Pide Angeles sin Frontera que Migrantes No Se Manifestan


Almost a week before the demonstration, Sergio shared the information with Telemundo 20 of San Diego that a masse crossing was being planned at SYPOE, who passed it along to Fox News and other right wing news outlets. Here, because of Telemundo 20 the information went viral and scared people.

 - From Fox News:

Migrant Caravan Members May Be Planning 'Human Stampede' At US Border: Aid Group

~~~~~

 - But it wasn't just a free for all.  Both Padre Solalinde and Father Patrick Murphy (Casa Del Migrante/Padre Chavas Tijuana) have condemned Pueblos Sin Fronteras - or at least a faction of that group who Padre Solalinde calls "extremists" with irresponsible and unforgivable behavior, of exploiting and deceiving the migrantes to forward their own political agenda.  For the longest time, I agreed with Univision that this caravan was not organized by any group. I should have listened to the Padres.

 - From Frontera:

Lamenta Padre Murphy El Engano a Mgrantes de Caravana


Pasted:


" Father Patrick Murphy, director of the Casa del Migrante, lamented that the families of the Central American caravan have been tricked into entering the United States through a humanitarian asylum.

That has been noticed because people do not have their documentation and are unaware of the process, they also believed that in three days they would be in the American Union.

Like the priest and activist Alejandro Solalinde, Muphy railed against the organization Pueblos Sin Fronteras for allegedly organizing the exodus and bringing him to Tijuana.

"They did not inform them very well. They made false promises.

Cross in three days? I always had my suspicions, why are they doing that? Why not seek a dialogue with those who work at the border? They have a very political strategy and want to enter forces and this time it will not happen again, "he said.

The asylum process lasts a long time and very few will receive it, for what others will have for their Mexican dream, he added.

He explained that this situation will increase the work of the pro-migrant civil associations, who will have to support those people who fulfill their Mexican dream when establishing in the city.

Hence, he proposed that the governments of Mexico, the United States and Central America should generate actions to serve their communities.

The director of the Casa del Migrante said that Tijuana always arrives migrants of different nationalities, the difference is that this time they did it in caravans, in which they exceed 6 thousand members.

In that sense, he described as slow the preparation of the authorities to deal with the migrant exodus.

"The response of the authorities has been extremely slow.

For more than a month, every Thursday, we started having meetings with the shelters and the government of the three levels, there were always many promises. I always insisted that we make decisions because the migrants were going to arrive and that was no secret, "said the father.
~~~~~

Worse, Padre Solalinde offered up this information days earlier through several interviews where he also brings up trafficking in arms and people  - at least by what he describes are "extremists" within Pueblos Sin Fronteras.

 - From Mexico.com:

Migrantes Son Utilizados Por Pueblo Sin Fronteras Para Trafica Armas: Solalinde


~~~~~

What next?  Apparently there is rumor that some of the migrantes will participate in a  hunger strike starting today, Frontera will update us.  Meanwhile, we were in Tijuana yesterday after my Doctors appointment and to say it is tense is an understatement.  You could cut the tension with a knife and people are frightened.

Right now it just started raining, it is supposed to come down heavy during the day - what will happen to the migrantes?  If someone doesn't find shelter for them, they are going to be soaking and freezing  from the rain.  Here are some links, you can read about the birth in the camp, the outbreak of chicken pox and other health issues at the baseball field, and after the disaster on Sunday, 100+ migrantes leave Tijuana and Mexico on their own accord. Dreams broken, thanks Pueblo Sin Fronteras Extremists Idiots !!

 I am so angry at this Pueblos Sin Fronteras I could scream...but I am also wondering if they hired the strongmen to infiltrate the caravana from President of Guatemala Jimmy "The Rat" Moreles and President Hernandez's  (the puppets of the USA.) criminal gangs.

El Sol de Tijuana:

Caravana Migrante


Frontera:

Caravana Migrante 

~~~~~

Tear Gas, Rocks and Rubber Bullets On The Border - It Will Get Worse - Update 11/26: US MSM Are Not Reporting Rubber Bullets Were Fired At the Migrantes But The Mexican News Sources Both Locally and Nationally Are

From La Jornada:

Con Gases y Balas de Goma Repelen a Migrantes que Intentan Ingresar a EU

Por, Blanche Petrich - 11/26/18 

"Tijuana: The illusion of being able to assault the sky with slogans and banners lasted little more than three hours for half a thousand displaced from the Central American exodus. The futile attempt this morning to cross without documents the border to the most powerful and best armed country on earth, only with the unwavering will that has pushed them for six weeks to travel more than 5 thousand kilometers, ended badly.

 The US Border Patrol repelled them at the height of the El Chaparral gate with tear gas and rubber bullets fired from the United States into Mexican territory, leaving four injured.

 One of the injured is human rights defender Rubén Figueroa, of the Mesoamerican Migrant Movement, who observed the development of the events several meters away from the border wall. A tear gas canister shot from the north knocked him out. He was discharged after being treated at the general hospital.

 In addition, 36 people were arrested on the Mexican side, all Hondurans. On the US side there were captured 73 who had managed to circumvent the dividing wall through a gap. Several witnesses said that the detainees did not perform any violent act; that when the demonstrators withdrew and returned on foot to the shelter, patrols stopped them and handed them over to the immigration station. These, apparently, will be accused of "causing disturbances, fights, disrupting public order and assaulting citizens" , according to municipal police. And they will be deported.

 The march to the El Chaparral checkpoint was planned days ago. The commission of representatives and the organization Pueblo Sin Fronteras agreed to accompany the group with the condition that it be a peaceful walk.

 The blankets and banners were ready. In one it was noted: "Trump, we do not hate you" . Another prayed: "We come in peace" . And another: "Catrachos (Hondurans): 100% worker" . One alludes to the xenophobic campaign that has been felt on this side: "Mexico, excuse me if I have offended you in something" . Some children carried flags from the United States. They left after 10 in the morning with the plan to demonstrate in front of the sentry box that divides El Chaparral and San Ysidro.

The majority of those who cramp the oversaturated hostel chose not to join the column. Many went with the idea that it was a demonstration of protest. Others had the illusion that they could make the final leap. They carried small backpacks and a blanket tied behind their backs. Upon arriving at the vehicular bridge that goes up to the entrance port of El Chaparral, they ran into a riot police barrier from the Federal Police. Without success they tried with dialogue to move forward.

Half an hour passed and everything indicated that the demonstration would return. But inexplicably the police force neglected the flanks of the vehicular bridge. The temptation was too great. In an instant, the Central American migrants started to run along the side rails and shouted " "Let's go, let's go!"" They invaded the restricted area of ​​the border port. Headed by a young man carrying a Mexican flag, several hundred went down the canal of the Tijuana River, passed on to the other shore, perhaps thinking that they were already in US territory, and advanced towards the port of entry. But they mistook the road and moved towards the vehicular exit. It was closed by stones and mud. Another small handful ran to another direction, saw an open gate and entered directly into the mouth of the wolf: the parking lot of the INM. A few ended up directly in the kennels of the Beta Group.

In a chaotic period, from the top of the vehicular bridge, one could observe the surrealist scene: groups ran down a corridor that led them to a dead end street. Moments later they returned and took a wrong turn again. Another contingent walked through the commercial zone and approached the barbed wire of the port of entry, in the middle of thousands of cars stranded by the closure of the sentry box. Others walked to the border, climbed an embankment that took them to the disused train tracks and there they ended directly at the gigantic metal wall. It was the end of the road. And also the end of the peaceful nature of the march.

Several migrants found a hole in the wall. Some 73 dared to cross it. They were arrested. A Border Patrol agent fired the first gas capsule. From there followed many more. And rubber bullets. In their retreat, other boys picked up stones near the train tracks and threw them against the wall. That's what US Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen, interpreted in a statement issued in Washington of late as an attempt to transgress the infrastructure of the border fence and an attempt to hurt Border Patrol personnel by throwing projectiles at them . 

Minutes later, on the same embankment groups of Hondurans, Salvadorans and Guatemalans were disappointed and alarmed. Some came tearful and had difficulty breathing. Others only saw clouds of gas in the distance. 

Javier Bauluz, an experienced photographer who has recorded many other exoduses in the world, tries to relax for a moment in front of a beer in the picturesque Plaza Santa Cecilia, the Tijuanense Garibaldi. And suddenly he remebers an episode in 2015, when tens of thousands of Syrians and Iraqis fleeing the war tried to travel to Europe. They had reached Budapest. The Austrian government suspended the train run to Germany. The fugitives were stranded, in terrible conditions, in a country that rejected them. 

They were totally against the wall, stunned. And one night a man came to shake them. He took them by the lapel and shouted: let's go. In 24 hours he organized a caravan that walked about 16 hours on the road, until exhausted. And that scene was the one that moved the government of Angela Merkel to welcome them. And he sent them to Germany on buses . 

These are not similar conditions. But it does give the impression that for the epic displacement of Central Americans this day can be a turning point. And maybe in the shelter more than one will not be able to sleep, thinking about what is approaching. "

~~~~~ 

I don't know about you guys, but I can't sleep.  No word on Trump's "Return To Mexico" - that is, despite reports from Aristegui and the Washington Post nothing is official yet, Mexico has not officially agreed to the policy.

The remaining migrantes (minus the 500 men who were deported today) still need food, clothes, blankets, toilet things, happy things for the kids, etc.



~~~~~

  - Update/edit 11/26/18: The US MSM  (as well as CNN) are not reporting that rubber bullets were fired into the crowds of migrantes which included women and children by USBP, but the Mexican news sources both local and national are reporting rubber bullets were used against the migrantes. The US MSM has reported that "shot bangs" specifically two shot bangs were fired by the USBP. Here are examples from the Mexican Press: ( and after all, members of the Mexican press were very up close and personal on the ground, in the river channel and not standing off to the side at the Chaparral crossing) 

 From Zeta:

 Detiene Patrulla Fronteriza a Migrantes Centroamericanos, Lanzan Gas Lacrimogeno 

From Aristegui Noticias: 
  
Mexico Deberia Inteponer Queja Ante EU Por Uso de Ballas de Goma y Gases en la Frontera: Berruga (audio) 

From Aristegui: Univision Reporting:

 "redacción AN / AL 5 hours ago Jesica Zermeño, a Univisión journalist, tells how US Border Patrol agents fired rubber bullets and tear gas at Central American migrants to contain them in their attempt to reach the border. In the American Union, 42 people who crossed without papers were arrested. "

 42 Migrantes Detenidos en Tras Intento Violento de Cruzar la Frontera: Periodista (Video)  


The List Is Endless: Forbes Mexico, Animal Politico, La Vanguardia, El Finaciero - look, from google search "Balas de Goma: Caravana Migrante en Tijuana":


 Caravana migrante en Tijuana: balas de goma, gases lacrimógenos y ... LaRepública.pe-5 hours ago

 Cerca de 500 miembros de la caravana migrante intentaron cruzar valla fronteriza. EE.UU. respondió con gases lacrimógenos y balas de ... VIDEO: Policía de EE.UU. usa gas lacrimógeno y balas de goma ... RT en Español-22 hours ago

 Presidente de Honduras critica uso de balas de goma contra migrantes Local Source-FRONTERA.INFO-5 hours ago

 Estados Unidos repele a la caravana migrante International-El Siglo de Torreón-10 hours ago 
México deporta a 98 migrantes de la caravana tras fallido intento de ... Opinion-ElHeraldo.hn-7 hours ago

 La Caravana Migrante en Tijuana: "Donald Trump no es el dueño de ... In-Depth-El Mundo-1 hour ago 


View all Story image for Balas de Goma : Caravana Migrante en Tijuana from El Sur de Acapulco (Comunicado de prensa) Frenan agentes de EU con balas de goma y gases el avance de la ... El Sur de Acapulco (Comunicado de prensa)-8 hours ago ... con balas de goma y gases el avance de la caravana migrante en Tijuana ... Mediante gases lacrimógenos y balas de goma las autoridades ... Patrulla estadounidense recibe a Caravana Migrante con balas de ... Forbes Mexico (blog)-Nov 25, 2018 Patrulla Fronteriza dispara balas de goma contra caravana migrante ... ElHeraldo.hn-Nov 25, 2018 Patrulla Fronteriza usa gas lacrimógeno y balas de goma contra ... International-El Financiero-Nov 25, 2018 Arrestan a 42 migrantes que ingresaron a EEUU por la frontera con ... In-Depth-BioBioChile-10 hours ago FOTOS Y VIDEOS: Patrulla Fronteriza lanza gas lacrimógeno para ... International-HuffPost Mexico-Nov 25, 2018 View all Story image for Balas de Goma : Caravana Migrante en Tijuana from La Vanguardia Lanzan gas lacrimógeno y balas de goma a los migrantes en la ... La Vanguardia-16 hours ago Un grupo de migrantes de la caravana de centroamericanos radicada en Tijuana desafió el domingo a las autoridades al trepar el muro ... Story image for Balas de Goma : Caravana Migrante en Tijuana from Vanguardia.com.mx México deporta a 98 migrantes por violencia en frontera en Tijuana Vanguardia.com.mx-9 hours ago Afirmó que en la caravana de migrantes centroamericanos "hay ... por la Guardia Nacional con gases lacrimógenos y balas de goma. Son 98 los migrantes deportados tras intento por cruzar a EU 

 And that is just a partial list.  They are all wrong or misinformed?  I don't think so.

~~~~~

More Information:

 - Frontera is reporting that Presidente Hernandez of Honduras has objected to rubber bullets being fired on the migrantes by USBP, and he says there is proof that these bullets were fired.  

 My neighbors are saying this evening that the whole catastrophe of yesterday @ the SY POE was a set up.  They think this rush on the Border was well planned in advance by Trump operatives with the goal  of making the migrants look bad and reinforcing Trump's "Wall Agenda". If you get a chance go to either Frontera.info or Zeta on Facebook and read the comments - the comments are mostly pro-Trump and super slick.  At any rate here is the Frontera report on Hernandez:

From Frontera - and this was re-directed from El Universal: 

Presidente de Honduras Critica Uso de Balas de Goma Contra Migrantes - 11/26/18

 end edit

~~~~~ 



 Well still, I would have entitled it "Escape From Alcatraz":

  

Tear Gas, Rocks and Rubber Bullets On The Border - It Will Get Worse - Update 11/26: US MSM Are Not Reporting Rubber Bullets Were Fired At the Migrantes But The Mexican News Sources Both Locally and Nationally Are

From La Jornada:

Con Gases y Balas de Goma Repelen a Migrantes que Intentan Ingresar a EU

Por, Blanche Petrich - 11/26/18 

"Tijuana: The illusion of being able to assault the sky with slogans and banners lasted little more than three hours for half a thousand displaced from the Central American exodus. The futile attempt this morning to cross without documents the border to the most powerful and best armed country on earth, only with the unwavering will that has pushed them for six weeks to travel more than 5 thousand kilometers, ended badly.

 The US Border Patrol repelled them at the height of the El Chaparral gate with tear gas and rubber bullets fired from the United States into Mexican territory, leaving four injured.

 One of the injured is human rights defender Rubén Figueroa, of the Mesoamerican Migrant Movement, who observed the development of the events several meters away from the border wall. A tear gas canister shot from the north knocked him out. He was discharged after being treated at the general hospital.

 In addition, 36 people were arrested on the Mexican side, all Hondurans. On the US side there were captured 73 who had managed to circumvent the dividing wall through a gap. Several witnesses said that the detainees did not perform any violent act; that when the demonstrators withdrew and returned on foot to the shelter, patrols stopped them and handed them over to the immigration station. These, apparently, will be accused of "causing disturbances, fights, disrupting public order and assaulting citizens" , according to municipal police. And they will be deported.

 The march to the El Chaparral checkpoint was planned days ago. The commission of representatives and the organization Pueblo Sin Fronteras agreed to accompany the group with the condition that it be a peaceful walk.

 The blankets and banners were ready. In one it was noted: "Trump, we do not hate you" . Another prayed: "We come in peace" . And another: "Catrachos (Hondurans): 100% worker" . One alludes to the xenophobic campaign that has been felt on this side: "Mexico, excuse me if I have offended you in something" . Some children carried flags from the United States. They left after 10 in the morning with the plan to demonstrate in front of the sentry box that divides El Chaparral and San Ysidro.

The majority of those who cramp the oversaturated hostel chose not to join the column. Many went with the idea that it was a demonstration of protest. Others had the illusion that they could make the final leap. They carried small backpacks and a blanket tied behind their backs. Upon arriving at the vehicular bridge that goes up to the entrance port of El Chaparral, they ran into a riot police barrier from the Federal Police. Without success they tried with dialogue to move forward.

Half an hour passed and everything indicated that the demonstration would return. But inexplicably the police force neglected the flanks of the vehicular bridge. The temptation was too great. In an instant, the Central American migrants started to run along the side rails and shouted " "Let's go, let's go!"" They invaded the restricted area of ​​the border port. Headed by a young man carrying a Mexican flag, several hundred went down the canal of the Tijuana River, passed on to the other shore, perhaps thinking that they were already in US territory, and advanced towards the port of entry. But they mistook the road and moved towards the vehicular exit. It was closed by stones and mud. Another small handful ran to another direction, saw an open gate and entered directly into the mouth of the wolf: the parking lot of the INM. A few ended up directly in the kennels of the Beta Group.

In a chaotic period, from the top of the vehicular bridge, one could observe the surrealist scene: groups ran down a corridor that led them to a dead end street. Moments later they returned and took a wrong turn again. Another contingent walked through the commercial zone and approached the barbed wire of the port of entry, in the middle of thousands of cars stranded by the closure of the sentry box. Others walked to the border, climbed an embankment that took them to the disused train tracks and there they ended directly at the gigantic metal wall. It was the end of the road. And also the end of the peaceful nature of the march.

Several migrants found a hole in the wall. Some 73 dared to cross it. They were arrested. A Border Patrol agent fired the first gas capsule. From there followed many more. And rubber bullets. In their retreat, other boys picked up stones near the train tracks and threw them against the wall. That's what US Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen, interpreted in a statement issued in Washington of late as an attempt to transgress the infrastructure of the border fence and an attempt to hurt Border Patrol personnel by throwing projectiles at them . 

Minutes later, on the same embankment groups of Hondurans, Salvadorans and Guatemalans were disappointed and alarmed. Some came tearful and had difficulty breathing. Others only saw clouds of gas in the distance. 

Javier Bauluz, an experienced photographer who has recorded many other exoduses in the world, tries to relax for a moment in front of a beer in the picturesque Plaza Santa Cecilia, the Tijuanense Garibaldi. And suddenly he remebers an episode in 2015, when tens of thousands of Syrians and Iraqis fleeing the war tried to travel to Europe. They had reached Budapest. The Austrian government suspended the train run to Germany. The fugitives were stranded, in terrible conditions, in a country that rejected them. 

They were totally against the wall, stunned. And one night a man came to shake them. He took them by the lapel and shouted: let's go. In 24 hours he organized a caravan that walked about 16 hours on the road, until exhausted. And that scene was the one that moved the government of Angela Merkel to welcome them. And he sent them to Germany on buses . 

These are not similar conditions. But it does give the impression that for the epic displacement of Central Americans this day can be a turning point. And maybe in the shelter more than one will not be able to sleep, thinking about what is approaching. "

~~~~~ 

I don't know about you guys, but I can't sleep.  No word on Trump's "Return To Mexico" - that is, despite reports from Aristegui and the Washington Post nothing is official yet, Mexico has not officially agreed to the policy.

The remaining migrantes (minus the 500 men who were deported today) still need food, clothes, blankets, toilet things, happy things for the kids, etc.



~~~~~

  - Update/edit 11/26/18: The US MSM  (as well as CNN) are not reporting that rubber bullets were fired into the crowds of migrantes which included women and children by USBP, but the Mexican news sources both local and national are reporting rubber bullets were used against the migrantes. The US MSM has reported that "shot bangs" specifically two shot bangs were fired by the USBP. Here are examples from the Mexican Press: ( and after all, members of the Mexican press were very up close and personal on the ground, in the river channel and not standing off to the side at the Chaparral crossing) 

 From Zeta:

 Detiene Patrulla Fronteriza a Migrantes Centroamericanos, Lanzan Gas Lacrimogeno 

From Aristegui Noticias: 
  
Mexico Deberia Inteponer Queja Ante EU Por Uso de Ballas de Goma y Gases en la Frontera: Berruga (audio) 

From Aristegui: Univision Reporting:

 "redacción AN / AL 5 hours ago Jesica Zermeño, a Univisión journalist, tells how US Border Patrol agents fired rubber bullets and tear gas at Central American migrants to contain them in their attempt to reach the border. In the American Union, 42 people who crossed without papers were arrested. "

 42 Migrantes Detenidos en Tras Intento Violento de Cruzar la Frontera: Periodista (Video)  


The List Is Endless: Forbes Mexico, Animal Politico, La Vanguardia, El Finaciero - look, from google search "Balas de Goma: Caravana Migrante en Tijuana":


 Caravana migrante en Tijuana: balas de goma, gases lacrimógenos y ... LaRepública.pe-5 hours ago

 Cerca de 500 miembros de la caravana migrante intentaron cruzar valla fronteriza. EE.UU. respondió con gases lacrimógenos y balas de ... VIDEO: Policía de EE.UU. usa gas lacrimógeno y balas de goma ... RT en Español-22 hours ago

 Presidente de Honduras critica uso de balas de goma contra migrantes Local Source-FRONTERA.INFO-5 hours ago

 Estados Unidos repele a la caravana migrante International-El Siglo de Torreón-10 hours ago 
México deporta a 98 migrantes de la caravana tras fallido intento de ... Opinion-ElHeraldo.hn-7 hours ago

 La Caravana Migrante en Tijuana: "Donald Trump no es el dueño de ... In-Depth-El Mundo-1 hour ago 


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 And that is just a partial list.  They are all wrong or misinformed?  I don't think so.

~~~~~

More Information:

 - Frontera is reporting that Presidente Hernandez of Honduras has objected to rubber bullets being fired on the migrantes by USBP, and he says there is proof that these bullets were fired.  

 My neighbors are saying this evening that the whole catastrophe of yesterday @ the SY POE was a set up.  They think this rush on the Border was well planned in advance by Trump operatives with the goal  of making the migrants look bad and reinforcing Trump's "Wall Agenda". If you get a chance go to either Frontera.info or Zeta on Facebook and read the comments - the comments are mostly pro-Trump and super slick.  At any rate here is the Frontera report on Hernandez:

From Frontera - and this was re-directed from El Universal: 

Presidente de Honduras Critica Uso de Balas de Goma Contra Migrantes - 11/26/18

 end edit

~~~~~ 



 Well still, I would have entitled it "Escape From Alcatraz":

  

Updates: Caravana Migrante In Tijuana - Pablo Perez Of Telesur Reacts To Xenophobia In Tijuana - Trump's New Plan:" Remain In Mexico " - Police Chief Of Tijuana Claims That 75% of The Migrantes Are Aggressive and Troublemakers - Zeta Reports @ 10:50am Yesterday 17 People Executed In 25 Hours Bringing This Month's Total In TIJ 141 Dead - YTD Total In TIJ @ 2,223 Dead - Updates 11/22 @ 7:00PM : AMLO Agrees To Trump's Plan & Trump Issues New Warnings That US Military Has Been Authorized To Use Deadly Force Against The Migrantes & Also Threatens To Shut Down The Entire Border- Heads Up: Demonstration Scheduled For This Sunday At San Ysidro POE By Migrantes - Happy Thanksgiving

I was just talking to someone from Google and I told him that normally on the eve of Thanksgiving I would be baking pies and making cranberry sauce. But we are doing things a bit different this year.  Late last Sunday night Mike started getting sick.  He had an appointment Monday to see his Doctor for his knee shot and also to look at the dog bite on his hand which is taking forever to heal.

  At any rate, at that point he was really sick.  They took a swab and confirmed he had the flu.  He had just had his flu shot two weeks ago (which made him horrible sick),  the Doctor told him that the flu shots are only 70% effective, but that he was in the window for the Tamaflu to work.  Get this - $60.00 for an RX even with insurance, what a joke our health care system is. The Doctor told him he needed to stay home for a week.  So, that is where he has been and that is what I've been doing, taking care of him.  Paris curls up and sleeps with him during the day, but he is a bad patient, terrible. Haven't been over to Mexicali or TIJ for the migrantes, will go next week.


~~~~~

This is a test...this is a test...testing...testing.....all hands on deck...all hands on deck....

This is a test...this is a test...testing...testing...all hands on deck...all hands on deck...



 - Tomorrow at 2:00 PM the San Ysidro POE will be closed to traffic going up to the States for 10 (ten) minutes.

Operativo Causara Leve Demora en Garita de San Ysidro


~~~~~


 Update /edit 7:00pm:


 - Aristegui Noticias updates this "drill" which they are reporting lasted 30-40 minutes and included the pedestrian walkways where about *one hundred of the migrantes had gathered. Keep in mind this drill along with all the other "precautions" the idiot Trump has arranged at the Border, is costing the American taxpayer close to three hundred million dollars.

Courtesy Aristegui Noticias

Courtesy Aristegui Noticas

 - From Aristegui Noticias:

 Reabren Garita de San Ysidro Tras Cerrar Por Media Hora

  * 07/23 Quickie Edit:  Today I read in the US Press - and it was another case of hysteria - that these migrantes were only 500 feet from US soil ! They were waving white flags ! Actually there were only two white flags. Presently, and prior in Playas de Tijuana where we saw the migrantes attacked by the counter migrante group there have been disputes within this group of how to approach the border. Check Frontera link below for current information, and Pablo Perez of Telesur also has mentioned a dislike between the groups of migrantes of different countries.  

The point is - which the US press completely missed, this group that went to the pedestrian walkway actually believed they could convince Donald Trump to let them in - that is how naive they are. They do not understand (but they will learn) what a Nazi he is.  It also proves once again these people have no attorneys, no leadership, no one is explaining to them the conditions of asylum, they are disorganized and uniformed.  So basically this should once and for all bury the right wing runaway  notion that this entire group was financed by George  Soros or the Communists.

If they were paid so well to carry out their hopes of attaining asylum, they sure don't have any money for food or shelter.  So, the US article got that right - they are cold and they are hungry.  It's flippin cold here now, with drizzle and light rain.

 Of course, the US report never mentioned why these people left Honduras in the first place - no mention of how the US triggered and sanctioned the present despotic and repressive government  and military which has been using the Honduran people (especially the indigenous people of Honduras) as target practice, hundreds of them in addition to sanctioning the gangs on the streets. It was the United States who trained the Honduran Military in the first place.  So fuck you Jeff Sessions for going along with & announcing the  changes to asylum requirements just a short while back - you knew the US backed the Honduran government which sanctions gangs (and drug activities) - yet now, being fearful for your life due to gangs no longer can be used as a reason for asking for asylum. And these gangs make the US gangs look like altar boys.

Meanwhile food, food, food, blankets, tents, clothes all desperately needed ! You can always just drop things off at Padre Chavas. Why didn't the San Diego report mention that?


end edit.
 

~~~~~

Of course by now you all know about the temporary restraining order put on Trump's new asylum rules:

From The Guardian

'He May Not Re Write Immigration Laws': Trumps Asylum Ban Blocked By Federal Judge


  - But look at this: Trump's New Plan - "Remain In Mexico"

  - From the Washington Post

Trump Plan Would Force Asylum Seekers To Wait In Mexico As Cases Are Processed, A Major Break With Current Policy
By, Nick Mirott, Josh Partlow & Josh Dawsey

Well, the authorities are saying they are looking for a facility to "rent" for the migrantes to stay in and Governor Kiko is demanding the Federal government of Mexico  give Baja California money to cover the costs.

~~~~~

Update/edit @ 7:00pm:  Aristegui Noticias has reported that apparently a deal has been struck and AMLO is in accord with the "Remain In Mexico" Policy, which has surprised many people:

 - From Aristegui Noticias:

 AMLO Aceptaria Plan de Trump Para Que Solicitantes de Asilo Esperen en Mexico 


And Trump then not only has ordered the US Military to use deadly force against the migrantes but threatens  to completely shut down the Border.  Check this out: 

 - From Aristegui Noticas:

Soldados Estadounidenses Autorizados Para Usar "Fuerza Leta" Contra Migrantes: Trump 

"President Donald Trump said Thursday that he authorized US troops on the US-Mexico border to "use lethal force" if necessary against the migrant caravan, while threatening to close "the entire border" with Mexico, If the immigration situation goes out of control. "If it reaches a level where we lose control or people may be injured, we will close the entry to the country for a period of time .

The entire border, "he told reporters after a telephone conversation with members of the Army. There is "a very bad situation" in Tijuana, Trump said, and he said he authorized US soldiers to use deadly force against migrants "if they have to." 

 "I have given my approval (...) I hope you do not have to do it. You are dealing with a minimum of 500 serious criminals (...) I have no other choice. I want that to happen? Absolutely not. You are dealing with rude people, "he said. HAPPY THANKSGIVING: Pres. Trump holds a teleconference to wish service members around the world to happy Thanksgiving. https://t.co/c9mlzpNYKg - ABC News (@ABC) November 22, 2018

 After a telephone conversation with military leaders on Thanksgiving Day , Trump also said that "there certainly could be" a government shutdown in December for financing the border wall.

 Trump received an updated report from the air commander, General David Lyons, on the state of the fight against the Taliban and members of the Islamic State (IS) in Afghanistan and took the opportunity to refer to the migrant caravan.

 "Keep them away from our shores. That is why we are making strong borders, you have surely seen in the news what happens on the southern border (...) large contingents and in many cases we do not know who they are and in many cases they are bad people, bad people, "said Trump from West Palm Beach. "We are not going to let anyone in, essentially (...) you are doing it over there, we are doing it here. We have their people on the border, military on the border for the first time (...) There has never been a Presidency like this, we have a powerful border now, "he said. Trump said the United States has the border wall and "with things that people can not even imagine." "We took care of the decomposed wall and wrapped it with barbed wire 'plus', and no one is going to enter these walls," said the president

. A San Francisco court recently invalidated Trump's plan to limit asylum or refugee applications to US border crossing points, since the law allows it to do so from anywhere in the country. "It's a terrible thing when the judges tell you how to protect the border, it's a disgrace. We are winning and you are winning, "he told the military commander. During the conversation, to commemorate the main non-religious holiday in the United States, the president made a round of talks with military leaders of the various branches of the Armed Forces and the Coast Guard.  "

~~~~~

 - More on the Thanksgiving Day threats from Trump:

I noticed this AP article on MSN in the wee hours of the morning; since then, the original article has been re-written to exclude Trump's statement on migrantes.  I was able to find the original AP article where Trump says:

"Trump asserted that there are "fistfights all over the streets" in Tijuana, Mexico, and that "these are not like normal, innocent people."

"These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight," he said. "I don't want that in this country."

The people of Tijuana "opened up with wide arms" to welcome the caravan, Trump said, and "now they're going crazy to get them out ... because bad things are happening."

He said if U.S. officials "find that it's incontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."

Naturally these are more lies by Trump.  It has already been established what happened here, that it was the anti-immigrante groups who reacted violently to the migrantes - not the other way around.

 - From The Anchorage Daily News

Trump Issues Thanksgiving Threat To Close US-Mexico Border

By, Jill Colvin AP - 11/22/18

He is out of his fucking mind.

end edit 

 ~~~~~

 -  From Politico a couple of days ago: 

Troops At US Mexican Border to Start Coming Home
By, Wesley Morgan

~~~~~

 - So far, what we are reading locally is that there are 4,000 migrantes here which is a lower number than Buzz Feed. So, where are these folks supposed to stay? Let's look at the local coverage, I'll highlight a few reports going back to reactions of the near riots of the anti-immigrantes. You will recognize Angel Gonzales the author who keeps track of the executions in Tijuana:

From Frontera: (I wasn't the only one who was shocked)

No Esperaba Que Tijuana Materialializan Xenofobia:  Corresponsal de Telesur
Por, Angel Gonzalez - 11/20/18


"The signs of rejection and hatred towards the migrant caravan were not expected from Tijuana, said journalist Pablo Pérez.

 The reporter of the international channel Telesur began the journey with the caravan from October 22 and arrived in Tijuana on Friday. Pérez was present during the anti-migrant march, on Sunday, which ended with a group of protesters trying to forcibly enter the shelter of the Benito Juárez Sports Unit.
 During his stay in different municipalities, the reporter who currently lives in Mexico City became aware of the messages of xenophobia towards Central Americans, mainly on social networks. However, considering itself a migrant city, he did not imagine that these messages materialized in marches and acts of violence.

 "The actions of these problems are remarkable throughout Mexico, but they stay in the networks, until now, this is when these protests are present, there never was. For the character of this city is where I did not expect them; Tijuana is presented to us as this migrant city par excellence almost of the world, Tijuana is New York of Mexico, "he said.

With almost a month accompanying the migrants, the communicator said that, contrary to what has been handled by some sectors that are against the caravan, there is no sponsor or organizer behind the movement. "There are reasons behind this, there are no interests, there is no organization and there is no money, that is what has been accused a long time but everything is so disorganized, so chaotic, armed on the fly, there is no way of thinking about an organization , a financing, "he explained.

 Perez added that he has witnessed the problems within the group and that many of the members have no idea how they will cross into the United States. "One of the characteristics of these groups of migrants is that they distrust each other, because of their local origins, quarrels, because of their nationality, Salvadorans do not trust Hondurans," he said.


From Zeta:

zetatijuana.com/2018/11/presentan-queja-ante-conapred-en-contra-de-juan-manuel-gastelum-por-su-lenguaje-xenofobo-y-racista/
Por, Manuel Ayala 

~~~~~

 - But the truth is, it doesn't look good for the migrantes.  So far, Frontera has reported that 90 (ninety) of them have been arrested (which means deportation from Mexico)including a reporter from Honduras.(One migrante died on the Tecate-TIJ Highway, hit by a vehicle)  According to the authorities, the arrests are for either drunken public behavior or for smoking the ganja.  In one incident, the Municipal Police went into the area where hundreds of the migrantes are staying and arrested four men for smoking weed, which nearly caused a riot. You can see the reactions of some of the Mexican women - it is anti-immigrant hysteria which is growing here.  One of my neighbors said he thought the cops planted the dope on these men.  But more and more this racist hysteria is gaining a grip on Tijuana.

In addition, business people of Rosarito are blaming the migrantes for empty hotel rooms and condos over Thanksgiving Holiday.



 - Police Chief Mario Martinez then issued this statement:

From Frontera:

75% De Integrantes De La Caravana Dan Imagen De Ser Personas Agresivas: Policia Municipal
Por, Angel F. Gonzalez

" 75% of the members of the migrant caravan give the image of being aggressive people, said the director of the Municipal Police, Mario Martínez Martínez.

Today in the morning, four men were insured by agents of the Municipal Police when they were identified as allegedly responsible for smoking marijuana inside the shelter located in the Benito Juárez Sports Unit.

In his supervisory tour, Mario Martínez Martínez assured that Tijuana does not have the capacity to receive so many migrants; Until yesterday, the number of Central Americans in Tijuana reached more than 4 thousand.

"As director of the Municipal Police, I ask for the conscience of the federal authorities, I do not understand why they are allowing so many people to enter the city of Tijuana, it is going to get out of control, it is not possible that this is happening in the city, we are doing everything possible because we do not get out of control, "he said.

The director added that, according to what he has appreciated since the arrival of the first group of the caravan, most of the members are troublemakers.

"They are rich people, 75% are seeing their characteristics that are not ordinary people, the other ladies, children, parents, the other 75% I am seeing them in that way," he said.

Since the arrival of Central American migrants until yesterday, 90 arrests were registered, however, Martinez said, to continue with the arrival of more people, it will be more difficult to maintain order.

"There can be violence, fortunately we have been able to control this situation but this problem can be out of date; most, all the people we have arrested, the majority is for drug use, you enter the shelter and you feel a characteristic smell of marijuana, "he said.

~~~~~

75 % ????? 

~~~~~

From Frontera: The Very Latest Reports : Every detail is here:

Toda La Informacion Relacionada Con Caravana Migrante 


Update/edit 7:30pm:  Frontera has added to the numbers of migrantes in Tijuana - they are reporting 5,000 - so this number changes.  Importantly there is a demonstration scheduled for this Sunday at the SYPOE by the migrantes,  

They are planning to be in the entry lanes in between the vehicles going up to the States.  Just keep your fingers crossed that the counter demonstrators (anit-immigrantes) will not be present and cause more turmoil and violence. Keep your fingers crossed that nothing goes wrong.


 

 - From Frontera: 

Planea Caravana Migrante Manifestacion El La Garita de San Ysidro

 
end edit.


~~~~~

Latest Tijuana Execution Figures:  Oh, and keep in mind Breitbart will most likely post these figures, although they NEVER give credit to their information sources who are the local Mexican reporters. Of course not, Breitbart HATES Mexicans:
 
 - From Zeta who reported yesterday at 10:50 am in the last twenty five hours 17 people executed in Tijuana, bringing the monthly total up to 141 dead in the city. Apparently the Caravana Immigrante is not going to slow down the executions - we were hoping that it would, but it doesn't look that way:

17 Ejecutados En 25 Horas, Solo Tres Victimas Estan Identificados 

Note: Frontera reported on 11/17 ninety four executed in Tijuana so far this month giving the YTD Tijuana figure of 2,176 dead.  Adding the difference between the two reports would put us at 2,223 executed just in Tijuana YTD.  And people are complaining about the migrantes? 

From Frontera:

Ola Homicida Cobra Otras Tres Victimas
Por, Angel F. Gonzalez - 11/17/2018


~~~~~

Have a nice Thanksgiving. 

Updates: Caravana Migrante In Tijuana - Pablo Perez Of Telesur Reacts To Xenophobia In Tijuana - Trump's New Plan:" Remain In Mexico " - Police Chief Of Tijuana Claims That 75% of The Migrantes Are Aggressive and Troublemakers - Zeta Reports @ 10:50am Yesterday 17 People Executed In 25 Hours Bringing This Month's Total In TIJ 141 Dead - YTD Total In TIJ @ 2,223 Dead - Updates 11/22 @ 7:00PM : AMLO Agrees To Trump's Plan & Trump Issues New Warnings That US Military Has Been Authorized To Use Deadly Force Against The Migrantes & Also Threatens To Shut Down The Entire Border- Heads Up: Demonstration Scheduled For This Sunday At San Ysidro POE By Migrantes - Happy Thanksgiving

I was just talking to someone from Google and I told him that normally on the eve of Thanksgiving I would be baking pies and making cranberry sauce. But we are doing things a bit different this year.  Late last Sunday night Mike started getting sick.  He had an appointment Monday to see his Doctor for his knee shot and also to look at the dog bite on his hand which is taking forever to heal.

  At any rate, at that point he was really sick.  They took a swab and confirmed he had the flu.  He had just had his flu shot two weeks ago (which made him horrible sick),  the Doctor told him that the flu shots are only 70% effective, but that he was in the window for the Tamaflu to work.  Get this - $60.00 for an RX even with insurance, what a joke our health care system is. The Doctor told him he needed to stay home for a week.  So, that is where he has been and that is what I've been doing, taking care of him.  Paris curls up and sleeps with him during the day, but he is a bad patient, terrible. Haven't been over to Mexicali or TIJ for the migrantes, will go next week.


~~~~~

This is a test...this is a test...testing...testing.....all hands on deck...all hands on deck....

This is a test...this is a test...testing...testing...all hands on deck...all hands on deck...



 - Tomorrow at 2:00 PM the San Ysidro POE will be closed to traffic going up to the States for 10 (ten) minutes.

Operativo Causara Leve Demora en Garita de San Ysidro


~~~~~


 Update /edit 7:00pm:


 - Aristegui Noticias updates this "drill" which they are reporting lasted 30-40 minutes and included the pedestrian walkways where about *one hundred of the migrantes had gathered. Keep in mind this drill along with all the other "precautions" the idiot Trump has arranged at the Border, is costing the American taxpayer close to three hundred million dollars.

Courtesy Aristegui Noticias

Courtesy Aristegui Noticas

 - From Aristegui Noticias:

 Reabren Garita de San Ysidro Tras Cerrar Por Media Hora

  * 07/23 Quickie Edit:  Today I read in the US Press - and it was another case of hysteria - that these migrantes were only 500 feet from US soil ! They were waving white flags ! Actually there were only two white flags. Presently, and prior in Playas de Tijuana where we saw the migrantes attacked by the counter migrante group there have been disputes within this group of how to approach the border. Check Frontera link below for current information, and Pablo Perez of Telesur also has mentioned a dislike between the groups of migrantes of different countries.  

The point is - which the US press completely missed, this group that went to the pedestrian walkway actually believed they could convince Donald Trump to let them in - that is how naive they are. They do not understand (but they will learn) what a Nazi he is.  It also proves once again these people have no attorneys, no leadership, no one is explaining to them the conditions of asylum, they are disorganized and uniformed.  So basically this should once and for all bury the right wing runaway  notion that this entire group was financed by George  Soros or the Communists.

If they were paid so well to carry out their hopes of attaining asylum, they sure don't have any money for food or shelter.  So, the US article got that right - they are cold and they are hungry.  It's flippin cold here now, with drizzle and light rain.

 Of course, the US report never mentioned why these people left Honduras in the first place - no mention of how the US triggered and sanctioned the present despotic and repressive government  and military which has been using the Honduran people (especially the indigenous people of Honduras) as target practice, hundreds of them in addition to sanctioning the gangs on the streets. It was the United States who trained the Honduran Military in the first place.  So fuck you Jeff Sessions for going along with & announcing the  changes to asylum requirements just a short while back - you knew the US backed the Honduran government which sanctions gangs (and drug activities) - yet now, being fearful for your life due to gangs no longer can be used as a reason for asking for asylum. And these gangs make the US gangs look like altar boys.

Meanwhile food, food, food, blankets, tents, clothes all desperately needed ! You can always just drop things off at Padre Chavas. Why didn't the San Diego report mention that?


end edit.
 

~~~~~

Of course by now you all know about the temporary restraining order put on Trump's new asylum rules:

From The Guardian

'He May Not Re Write Immigration Laws': Trumps Asylum Ban Blocked By Federal Judge


  - But look at this: Trump's New Plan - "Remain In Mexico"

  - From the Washington Post

Trump Plan Would Force Asylum Seekers To Wait In Mexico As Cases Are Processed, A Major Break With Current Policy
By, Nick Mirott, Josh Partlow & Josh Dawsey

Well, the authorities are saying they are looking for a facility to "rent" for the migrantes to stay in and Governor Kiko is demanding the Federal government of Mexico  give Baja California money to cover the costs.

~~~~~

Update/edit @ 7:00pm:  Aristegui Noticias has reported that apparently a deal has been struck and AMLO is in accord with the "Remain In Mexico" Policy, which has surprised many people:

 - From Aristegui Noticias:

 AMLO Aceptaria Plan de Trump Para Que Solicitantes de Asilo Esperen en Mexico 


And Trump then not only has ordered the US Military to use deadly force against the migrantes but threatens  to completely shut down the Border.  Check this out: 

 - From Aristegui Noticas:

Soldados Estadounidenses Autorizados Para Usar "Fuerza Leta" Contra Migrantes: Trump 

"President Donald Trump said Thursday that he authorized US troops on the US-Mexico border to "use lethal force" if necessary against the migrant caravan, while threatening to close "the entire border" with Mexico, If the immigration situation goes out of control. "If it reaches a level where we lose control or people may be injured, we will close the entry to the country for a period of time .

The entire border, "he told reporters after a telephone conversation with members of the Army. There is "a very bad situation" in Tijuana, Trump said, and he said he authorized US soldiers to use deadly force against migrants "if they have to." 

 "I have given my approval (...) I hope you do not have to do it. You are dealing with a minimum of 500 serious criminals (...) I have no other choice. I want that to happen? Absolutely not. You are dealing with rude people, "he said. HAPPY THANKSGIVING: Pres. Trump holds a teleconference to wish service members around the world to happy Thanksgiving. https://t.co/c9mlzpNYKg - ABC News (@ABC) November 22, 2018

 After a telephone conversation with military leaders on Thanksgiving Day , Trump also said that "there certainly could be" a government shutdown in December for financing the border wall.

 Trump received an updated report from the air commander, General David Lyons, on the state of the fight against the Taliban and members of the Islamic State (IS) in Afghanistan and took the opportunity to refer to the migrant caravan.

 "Keep them away from our shores. That is why we are making strong borders, you have surely seen in the news what happens on the southern border (...) large contingents and in many cases we do not know who they are and in many cases they are bad people, bad people, "said Trump from West Palm Beach. "We are not going to let anyone in, essentially (...) you are doing it over there, we are doing it here. We have their people on the border, military on the border for the first time (...) There has never been a Presidency like this, we have a powerful border now, "he said. Trump said the United States has the border wall and "with things that people can not even imagine." "We took care of the decomposed wall and wrapped it with barbed wire 'plus', and no one is going to enter these walls," said the president

. A San Francisco court recently invalidated Trump's plan to limit asylum or refugee applications to US border crossing points, since the law allows it to do so from anywhere in the country. "It's a terrible thing when the judges tell you how to protect the border, it's a disgrace. We are winning and you are winning, "he told the military commander. During the conversation, to commemorate the main non-religious holiday in the United States, the president made a round of talks with military leaders of the various branches of the Armed Forces and the Coast Guard.  "

~~~~~

 - More on the Thanksgiving Day threats from Trump:

I noticed this AP article on MSN in the wee hours of the morning; since then, the original article has been re-written to exclude Trump's statement on migrantes.  I was able to find the original AP article where Trump says:

"Trump asserted that there are "fistfights all over the streets" in Tijuana, Mexico, and that "these are not like normal, innocent people."

"These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight," he said. "I don't want that in this country."

The people of Tijuana "opened up with wide arms" to welcome the caravan, Trump said, and "now they're going crazy to get them out ... because bad things are happening."

He said if U.S. officials "find that it's incontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."

Naturally these are more lies by Trump.  It has already been established what happened here, that it was the anti-immigrante groups who reacted violently to the migrantes - not the other way around.

 - From The Anchorage Daily News

Trump Issues Thanksgiving Threat To Close US-Mexico Border

By, Jill Colvin AP - 11/22/18

He is out of his fucking mind.

end edit 

 ~~~~~

 -  From Politico a couple of days ago: 

Troops At US Mexican Border to Start Coming Home
By, Wesley Morgan

~~~~~

 - So far, what we are reading locally is that there are 4,000 migrantes here which is a lower number than Buzz Feed. So, where are these folks supposed to stay? Let's look at the local coverage, I'll highlight a few reports going back to reactions of the near riots of the anti-immigrantes. You will recognize Angel Gonzales the author who keeps track of the executions in Tijuana:

From Frontera: (I wasn't the only one who was shocked)

No Esperaba Que Tijuana Materialializan Xenofobia:  Corresponsal de Telesur
Por, Angel Gonzalez - 11/20/18


"The signs of rejection and hatred towards the migrant caravan were not expected from Tijuana, said journalist Pablo Pérez.

 The reporter of the international channel Telesur began the journey with the caravan from October 22 and arrived in Tijuana on Friday. Pérez was present during the anti-migrant march, on Sunday, which ended with a group of protesters trying to forcibly enter the shelter of the Benito Juárez Sports Unit.
 During his stay in different municipalities, the reporter who currently lives in Mexico City became aware of the messages of xenophobia towards Central Americans, mainly on social networks. However, considering itself a migrant city, he did not imagine that these messages materialized in marches and acts of violence.

 "The actions of these problems are remarkable throughout Mexico, but they stay in the networks, until now, this is when these protests are present, there never was. For the character of this city is where I did not expect them; Tijuana is presented to us as this migrant city par excellence almost of the world, Tijuana is New York of Mexico, "he said.

With almost a month accompanying the migrants, the communicator said that, contrary to what has been handled by some sectors that are against the caravan, there is no sponsor or organizer behind the movement. "There are reasons behind this, there are no interests, there is no organization and there is no money, that is what has been accused a long time but everything is so disorganized, so chaotic, armed on the fly, there is no way of thinking about an organization , a financing, "he explained.

 Perez added that he has witnessed the problems within the group and that many of the members have no idea how they will cross into the United States. "One of the characteristics of these groups of migrants is that they distrust each other, because of their local origins, quarrels, because of their nationality, Salvadorans do not trust Hondurans," he said.


From Zeta:

zetatijuana.com/2018/11/presentan-queja-ante-conapred-en-contra-de-juan-manuel-gastelum-por-su-lenguaje-xenofobo-y-racista/
Por, Manuel Ayala 

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 - But the truth is, it doesn't look good for the migrantes.  So far, Frontera has reported that 90 (ninety) of them have been arrested (which means deportation from Mexico)including a reporter from Honduras.(One migrante died on the Tecate-TIJ Highway, hit by a vehicle)  According to the authorities, the arrests are for either drunken public behavior or for smoking the ganja.  In one incident, the Municipal Police went into the area where hundreds of the migrantes are staying and arrested four men for smoking weed, which nearly caused a riot. You can see the reactions of some of the Mexican women - it is anti-immigrant hysteria which is growing here.  One of my neighbors said he thought the cops planted the dope on these men.  But more and more this racist hysteria is gaining a grip on Tijuana.

In addition, business people of Rosarito are blaming the migrantes for empty hotel rooms and condos over Thanksgiving Holiday.



 - Police Chief Mario Martinez then issued this statement:

From Frontera:

75% De Integrantes De La Caravana Dan Imagen De Ser Personas Agresivas: Policia Municipal
Por, Angel F. Gonzalez

" 75% of the members of the migrant caravan give the image of being aggressive people, said the director of the Municipal Police, Mario Martínez Martínez.

Today in the morning, four men were insured by agents of the Municipal Police when they were identified as allegedly responsible for smoking marijuana inside the shelter located in the Benito Juárez Sports Unit.

In his supervisory tour, Mario Martínez Martínez assured that Tijuana does not have the capacity to receive so many migrants; Until yesterday, the number of Central Americans in Tijuana reached more than 4 thousand.

"As director of the Municipal Police, I ask for the conscience of the federal authorities, I do not understand why they are allowing so many people to enter the city of Tijuana, it is going to get out of control, it is not possible that this is happening in the city, we are doing everything possible because we do not get out of control, "he said.

The director added that, according to what he has appreciated since the arrival of the first group of the caravan, most of the members are troublemakers.

"They are rich people, 75% are seeing their characteristics that are not ordinary people, the other ladies, children, parents, the other 75% I am seeing them in that way," he said.

Since the arrival of Central American migrants until yesterday, 90 arrests were registered, however, Martinez said, to continue with the arrival of more people, it will be more difficult to maintain order.

"There can be violence, fortunately we have been able to control this situation but this problem can be out of date; most, all the people we have arrested, the majority is for drug use, you enter the shelter and you feel a characteristic smell of marijuana, "he said.

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75 % ????? 

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From Frontera: The Very Latest Reports : Every detail is here:

Toda La Informacion Relacionada Con Caravana Migrante 


Update/edit 7:30pm:  Frontera has added to the numbers of migrantes in Tijuana - they are reporting 5,000 - so this number changes.  Importantly there is a demonstration scheduled for this Sunday at the SYPOE by the migrantes,  

They are planning to be in the entry lanes in between the vehicles going up to the States.  Just keep your fingers crossed that the counter demonstrators (anit-immigrantes) will not be present and cause more turmoil and violence. Keep your fingers crossed that nothing goes wrong.


 

 - From Frontera: 

Planea Caravana Migrante Manifestacion El La Garita de San Ysidro

 
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Latest Tijuana Execution Figures:  Oh, and keep in mind Breitbart will most likely post these figures, although they NEVER give credit to their information sources who are the local Mexican reporters. Of course not, Breitbart HATES Mexicans:
 
 - From Zeta who reported yesterday at 10:50 am in the last twenty five hours 17 people executed in Tijuana, bringing the monthly total up to 141 dead in the city. Apparently the Caravana Immigrante is not going to slow down the executions - we were hoping that it would, but it doesn't look that way:

17 Ejecutados En 25 Horas, Solo Tres Victimas Estan Identificados 

Note: Frontera reported on 11/17 ninety four executed in Tijuana so far this month giving the YTD Tijuana figure of 2,176 dead.  Adding the difference between the two reports would put us at 2,223 executed just in Tijuana YTD.  And people are complaining about the migrantes? 

From Frontera:

Ola Homicida Cobra Otras Tres Victimas
Por, Angel F. Gonzalez - 11/17/2018


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Have a nice Thanksgiving.