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Wednesday, December 12, 2018

Updates Caravana Migrantes: The Marches On Both Sides Of The Border And A Perspective From Zeta On The Status Of The Caravana

Sorry I am late.  The civil war surgery on my leg turned south, we had to return to the hospital today because my foot and calf were both swollen like watermelons and I still couldn't walk.  Turns out there is an infection and I have to go back again tomorrow to be fitted for something called a uni-boot and then again on Friday for a re-check; the only good thing was that Paris was dropped off at Pet-Co for a bathers, but everything else is a disaster.

If you have been following the links since the last blog you might have thought - like me - that there seemed to be some positive changes since a large measure (over 2,000)of the migrantes were moved to El Barretal.  Even though it isn't the Ritz, at least the migrantes were out of the freezing inclement weather.  One civilian volunteer group, World Central Kitchen has set up kitchens and  have been working around the clock preparing decent food for them, the Marinos were back in action with their food stations, some migrantes have set up kitchens themselves and some of these said they wanted to stay in TIJ and open up diners, the city was providing Nurses and Doctors to treat the rash of illnesses which had broken out, showers and latrines have been provided offering more privacy, AMLO has offered them jobs here in Tijuana and other parts of Mexico, stations were created to at least start their paperwork process by the Mexican government, Padre Solalinde was in town and still is working the crowds (and trying to persuade those still camped out by the baseball field and the PRI building to move over to Barretal and encouraging local authorities to be honest with the migrantes, and hundreds of Tijuana and US citizens have been showing up with much needed supplies.

Still, what we are hearing is that many hundreds of the migrantes refuse to go to Barretal which is not good news because health rules prohibit them from camping out on the streets and they have to move, the US is moving too slow on the asylum requests, some people are wondering what happened to the reported 3,000 migrantes reported unaccounted for (or if in fact there really are that many unaccounted for), the food lines are long and everyone is wondering will any of them receive asylum - if so, will they be held or are we back to catch and release?

The Marches:

December 10, 2018

 - From Zeta: see report for pics.

Lideres Religiosos Protestan En La Frontera Contra El Gobierno de EU Por No Recibir Solicitudes de Asilo a Migrantes 
Por, Manuel Ayala 

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"Hundreds of pro-immigrant activists and religious leaders demonstrated this afternoon at the border between San Diego and Tijuana, to set   his displeasure towards the migratory policies of the United States that at the moment has been denying the requests of asylum of the Central American migrants that from the past 11 November arrived at this city.
 
On the US side, the religious leaders conducted a peaceful walk of "civil disobedience", as well as discontent with the treatment they have given to the migrants themselves and the ways in which they were received with gas bombs and rubber bullets, in addition to the null speed to attend their cases.
The walk arrived to the wall adjacent to Playas de Tijuana, where a barricade of elements of the US Border Patrol stopped them, so they would not get close to the border, where on the Mexican side they were also expected by religious leaders and activists who work in Tijuana.

In their attempt to get close to the wall, several of the activists on the US side were stopped by the Border Patrol, who were loaded into trucks and taken with authority.
 
Father Patricio Murphy, director of the Casa del Migrante in Tijuana, said that more than 400 religious leaders participated in this demonstration to show solidarity with migrants on this side.
A demonstration on the occasion of Human Rights Day to carry out a moment of prayer for all the members of the migrant caravan.
 
"It is also a way to push the government, to awaken it with these images so that it looks for other solutions so that people can enter faster because 40 or 50 per day is nothing and the people who are here are going to last for months in a hostel that is not very worthy for children and women, "he said.
 
For her part, Mary Galván, social worker of the Madre Asunta Institute, said that as associations in Tijuana their participation was in solidarity with these leaders because part of their work is also to sensitize a part of the American community that "does not want to understand yet" the migrant situation.
 
 "(They come) to tell the United States that what they are doing is wrong, that a lot of the people who are on the move and trying to reach the neighboring country, are because they have a great need to seek a better living condition."
 
Finally he said that this was only a sample between groups on both sides of the border that "we are not alone", because on both sides "there are still good people who believe in God's love" and so they will always be manifesting.
 
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December 11, 2018:

From Zeta: 

Marchan Grupos Migrantes Para Pedir al Gobierno de EU Mayor Celeridad En Recepcion de Solicitudes de Asilo
Por, Manuel  Ayala 

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"In two different marches carried out this morning and afternoon in Tijuana, groups of migrants and activists requested the United States Consulate in the city, to speed up the reception of asylum applications from Central American migrants.
 
Considering that the great majority are families with children and women, the first group of approximately 150 Honduran migrants left the shelter of El Barretal in the morning, in the direction of the US consulate, where they delivered a request list with three highlights:
 
1.- Free entry to all members of the Central American exodus.
 
2.- That the United States take away the 12 military bases they have in Honduras and that is what causes so much violence in the country.
 
3 .- That if they do not want to let them in, they compensate them with a payment of 50 thousand dollars to each one of the migrants, so that they can return to their countries.

 

This group of migrants put the Consulate within 72 hours to receive a response, which, according to spokesperson Alfonso Guerrero Ulloa, is expected to be "positive" mainly with the granting of asylum; After presenting the document, the group of migrants returned to the shelter.
 
Later, another group of migrants, together with Pueblos Sin Fronteras activists, gathered at the facilities of the National Migration Institute (INM), to request information about the deportations they have made to members of the caravan and other legal aspects.
 
Xóchitl Castillo, originally from Nicaragua, shared that the sub-delegate of that institution, Manuel Marín, provided them with figures that to date had more than 700 voluntary returns, 300 returns assisted or deported because they were made available by some authority.
 
In addition, 25 asylum seekers are detained in the immigration station in Tijuana, by those who requested their immediate release and those who let them know that a mechanism is established not to deport people who are waiting to seek asylum in the neighboring country.
 
Subsequently, the contingent also traveled to the US Consulate in Tijuana, where they entered to present also a request list in which the only precision is to speed up asylum applications and that of 50 they are receiving daily , receive at least 300 a day in the San Ysidro sentry boxes.
 
Alex Martinez, a Honduran migrant, reported that this march was mainly due to a way to close the hunger strike that they held near El Chaparral facilities for 14 days.
 
The Hunger Strike with which they also asked for the asylum process to be expedited and for the Federal Police not to collaborate with the INM in order to stop and subsequently deport the migrants."
 
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From Zeta:An Interesting Perspective
Por, Manuel Ayala 
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"The rejection of the United States, the aggressions of a sector of the Tijuana society, the uncertainty, the bad conditions of the shelters, deficient distribution of provisions and even the inclemency of the climate, are some of the factors that have caused the migrant caravan to have lost strength as a group and now is segregating. Activists and researchers agree that much of it is because the authorities do not want to have them in Tijuana.
  The rejection of a sector of the Tijuana society, the bad conditions of the first shelter, the distance from the second, the recurrent criminalization and sectorization of the municipal authorities and the State, have generated a dispersion of the migrant caravan throughout the city.
 
"It has lost its essence, it has been taken away," said the migrant named Milson Martínez.
Some are separating themselves from the rest to stay close to the sentry boxes, others have looked for places to rent or work with their families, some more are waiting to ask for asylum in the neighboring country, others are jumping the wall and the least have asked to be returned to their places of origin.


"We are not staying other than to look on our own, the strength of the caravan is over. We must think of ourselves, of those who have children, to know well what we are going to decide now, because we already see that it will not be possible in a group and that the authorities in Tijuana do not like us very much, "shared the young Honduran.

 
To all this, the rainy season has started in Tijuana with its freezing temperatures, climatic conditions that still have not become accustomed and that have aggravated the health of many migrants.
 
The donations that are coming from civil society are retained at the entrance of El Barretal, where there are only 2,122 members of the more than 6,700 that had been counted by the Municipality in the Sports Unit "Benito Juárez". And they are not distributed in the best way.
The remoteness of workplaces or the El Chaparral Garita, where they have to be constantly going to know their turn to apply for asylum to the US government, are factors that some activists have considered strategic to contribute to the dissolution of the caravan and the persuasion that they desist from their path to the American Union.
 
"They do not want them in Tijuana either," said Soraya Vázquez, coordinator of the Strategic Committee for Humanitarian Aid (CEAH), who considers the attitude of the authority to be "perverse, in the sense of generating the worst conditions (for migrants) just to achieve that the majority left the city, regardless of the risks to their safety and physical integrity, what to say about violations of due process, as well as each and every one of their human rights. "

MISSING IN THE CARAVAN
 
The overcrowding in the shelter of the "Benito Juárez" Sports Unit, in the Northern Zone, and the unhealthy conditions generated by the rain that fell on Thursday, November 29 in the city, exceeded the attention capacities of the municipal and state authorities, propitiating a lack of control and chaos in the organization of the caravan itself.

In a hasty manner and without any protocol, between the afternoon and night of that day the authorities began to move the migrants to a new space in El Barretal, a former entertainment center of the Mariano Matamoros neighborhood in the Eastern Zone, which  did not have electricity or sanitation services.
 
The sudden displacement generated uncertainty and fear among the members of the caravan, who spread the rumor that they would be moved out of the city, or to the immigration offices to be deported immediately.
 
This caused fear among the migrants, some of whom refused to move. The sports unit was completely closed on Saturday, December 1 and an approximate of 700 occupants decided to camp on the street where the one that was their shelter was located.
 
On Sunday, December 2, the municipal authorities only accounted for 2,122 migrants in El Barretal, out of the more than 6,700 migrants who had joined before the transfer.
Mario Osuna Giménez, secretary of Municipal Social Development, said that the whereabouts of around 3,000 migrants are unknown.
 
Additionally, in his weekly report, on December 3, the Secretary of Municipal Public Security of Tijuana, Marco Antonio Sotomayor, referred to another 144 migrants located in different shelters of civil society, and the shortage of 3 thousand Central Americans.
 
Both officials agreed that they ended up leaving on their own to ask for assisted returns, to go and take shelter with a family member, seek asylum in the United States, those who have been jumping over the wall to surrender to the US authorities , or those who simply decided to stay in the city or any other part of the region.
 
"We know that suddenly some ventured to throw themselves on the wall, others maybe they went back, but I do not think so many have done it, that's why it generates uncertainty, because it may be that.
 
Housewives and peasants, most of the members of the migrant caravan


A diagnosis made by researchers from El Colegio de la Frontera Norte (El Colef) showed that the vast majority of the people who make up the migrant caravan said they dedicate themselves to agriculture and livestock in the case of men; and in that of women, at home or as domestic workers.
 
Another of the results that were shared on Tuesday, December 4, at the facilities of this institution, was that most of the respondents have on average between 18 and 29 years of age, and have only completed the primary level, although some of them have with doctorates.
 
On their expectations, the survey that was conducted while the migrants were in the "Benito Juárez" Sports Unit, showed that the vast majority wanted to cross to the United States by any means, others to request asylum through legal channels and a small part to stay in Tijuana.
81 percent comes from Honduras, 9% from El Salvador and 8% from Guatemala; the vast majority comes with one or up to four relatives, mainly women with children, and another large percentage are men who come alone.
 
WAYS TO DISPERSE THE CARAVAN; THEY WILL SEARCH FOR CROSSING BY DESERT AND MOUNTAINS
 
Activists and specialists consulted by ZETA , agree that moving and moving migrants away from the city center, from the sentry boxes and the crossing area to the United States, was a way to contribute to the dispersion of the caravan itself, to reduce its force through uncertainty and fear of what might happen.
 

The fact that there are also 3,000 unlocated migrants is attributed to a form of speculation among the members of the caravan, so they can take immediate measures such as voluntarily surrendering or leaving the country.
 
Soraya Vázquez, of the Strategic Committee, believes that to square the numbers that had been mentioned, "the key" is to know the real and objective figure of the total number of people who were housed in the "Benito Juárez" Sports Unit, which has not been done public authority, hence "the suspicion that the figures were inflated for the City to victimize even more, and to obtain more resources."
 
Option that other activists who reserved their name seconded, who argued that from the beginning it was impossible that in a space such as the sports unit could concentrate more than 6 thousand people, and even less "credible", that now be almost 3 thousand that are "disappeared", since there is something that "does not fit.
 
Guillermo Alonso, researcher at El Colegio de la Frontera Norte (El Colef), specialized in clandestine border crossing, said in an interview that, considering that this is a population that does not have money to pay for " polleros ", it is more likely that that flow that is not localized are young "able to cross the walls and walk the hills".
 

"They were not going to stay in El Barretal with their arms crossed, waiting for their turn to come; they will not be where the authorities want either, they did not walk more than 4 thousand kilometers to be asking for asylum, when every day the only signal they give is that they will be given if they do it for good (...) Most are scattered, hidden, planning how to cross to the other side ".
 
Caravan figures
 
* More than 5,000 migrants who arrived before the caravan and those who are now on the waiting list to apply for political asylum in the United States
 
* More than 600 have been repatriated voluntarily to their countries of origin
 
* Around 2 thousand 500 have been linked labor to companies of various sectors of the State
 
* More than 300 have been delivered to US immigration authorities, jumping the wall
 
"We do not want to stay in Mexico, we fear for our lives"
 
  Yanired Hernández, originally from Sonsonate, El Salvador, is the migrant woman who, at approximately 4:30 in the afternoon of November 30, was run down along with her cousin Nelson Armando -who died at the time- one block from El Barretal , where it is currently housed.
 
She is one of the people who is already "terrified" by all the situations that "unfortunately" she has had to live throughout her journey in Mexico and wants to leave as soon as possible the country in which, also highlights, she has touched " too many good people "that has also helped him along the way.
 
Together with her husband Carlos Hernández, her cousin and two friends, they left their country of their own free will and after joining the caravan in Huixtla, Chiapas, from there they began their group journey "without any problem", a path in which they recognize Many Mexicans helped them with food, drink and clothes.
 
They arrived at the shelter installed in the "Benito Juárez" Sports Unit, from where they had to leave almost fleeing the day the rain fell, as they lost everything due to weather conditions and left for El Barretal, where their "odyssey" began.
 
Arriving at the site they found out that one of the friends who were accompanying them, named Lázaro Daniel, was one of the migrants who died in the repair work of a rainwater network in Antonio Nava street in Acatlán of the Mariano Matamoros Norte neighborhood, Wednesday, November 28.
 
He explained that he had already found work in the contractor company Pacific Specialized Constructions, who were in charge of carrying out the work, and his desire was to stay in Tijuana to make his life here.
 
On several occasions, the leaders of the caravan were informing them that there were threats that armed groups would "shoot" those who remained in the Northern Zone, so they chose to stay in El Barretal.
 
But on Friday, November 30, when they returned from having gone to eat near the shelter, a drunken person who was on board their van ran over them, she was caught by her husband's jacket and only received a blow to the hip. who sent her against the wall, resulting in a wound on her head.
 
However, his cousin died instantly, which caused him "a very great pain" that has caused him "fear and terror" to continue in the city, he does not even want to stay in Mexico and is waiting for his turn to request the asylum, the one who waits for him to be granted because they left their country after the death threats and an attempt of homicide on the part of the Mara Salvatrucha towards her husband.
 
On his medical expenses, a private doctor from the Mariano Matamoros colony daily attends to follow up, Grupo Beta provided the first medications and a US association has been providing him with the other medications he requires.
 
On the body of his cousin, the Consulate of El Salvador, in coordination with his relatives, are taking charge of the transfer, which will take place in coming days to his homeland.
 
"My dream was to get to the United States to get my two children forward, we wanted to improve ourselves as people, work and make you want, at some point we thought about staying in Tijuana, I had plans to stay here, I had job offers and I had asked the humanitarian visa. We were happy that we were going to work together, but with this that happened to me, I definitely do not stay here; I fear for my life, I am afraid, "concluded the lady."

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Executions continue....at a high rate....
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Tuesday, December 4, 2018

Links For Caravana Migrante:Special Report From Zeta On Pueblas Sin Fronteras:They Are Forcing Migrantes To Participate In Marches - Information on Movimiento Cosecha, and BAMN Involvement With the Caravana - And Yes We are Still Having Executions: Over 200 In TIJ for the Month of November And @ 7:44 am Yesterday, Frontera Reports 4,189 Executions In TIJ During The Past Two Years !!! Zeta notes YTD Total Executions in TIJ as of 12/03/18 Is 2,299

I have not been here because I had surgery yesterday - this wasn't in the Doctors office surgery this was at the SRS Hospital way out in Kearny Mesa.  When we finally came home I was able to check the news and here there was a shitty little message under this blog. I was going to try to answer it but I was too drowsy then of course as usual the connection went down:


maggie

The comment:

Dreamersaid...
Great to see you back Maggie! I don't see anything about the poor 18 years olds executed in TJ. Do you have any information. Nothing in the papers new.


 I put that up in case "Dreamer" decides to delete their message. What an idiot. Must be freakin blind.
Maybe just dumb and blind.


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Meanwhile, in Tijuana for the month of November we are over 200 executions - and these are not just of 18 year olds.  Police officer executed in TIJ, another Police officer executed in Primo Tapia Rosarito, many women including the body of a pregnant woman located yesterday in the channel executed; minors executed along with not just "18 year olds", entire families in their homes executed,  men quite a bit older than 18 year old men executed.  Mutilations, bodies left in public places and on the streets for the whole world to see.What kind of a bullshit question was that anyway? When I am somewhat better I will be back with the latest reports on the state of affairs in all of the Municipalities which is bleak. I don't know when that is going to be, right now the pain medicine they gave me is simply not working, I could not sleep last night, I can't walk at all or put any weight on my one leg and I don't feel good, in fact, I feel like shit.

Then of course, the most pressing issue of all of our time - the migrantes.  What bothers me the most (other than the fact that the migrantes are suffering) are these American groups of  so-called "Revolutionaries" who orchestrated the caravana and the rush on the border - they need to take a long walk on a short pier.


The Migrantes In Tijuana:

I have not been so polite addressing them on this link from The Intercept, yet as far as I can see, no one seems to want to discuss this issue, not just here but on other "progressive" sites and in the USMSM.  Uncle Bob brought the subject up, I am "sheilawasbannedOMG".  So in order to save time, here is that link where I have added links from the local news sources going way back  to the denunciation of these groups by Padre Solalinde  and Sergio Tamai.  I fired one off before we left yesterday and am adding the latest report from the printed issue of Zeta after this blog.

Why won't anyone acknowledge this huge mistake by these American Groups and NGO's ???  Shameful.

 - From The Intercept

Photos of children Being Teargassed Stoke Outrage - While Playing Into Trump's Manufactured Border Crisis
by, Natasha Lennard - 11/27/18 

Edit:  On second thought here are the comments - most importantly Zeta points out the migrantes have been coerced and forced by members of Pueblo Sin Fronteras to march - those who were interviewed by Zeta did so anonymously - very important report from yesterday: 


 - sheilawasbannedomg:



MIGRANTES WISE UP TO PUEBLO SIN FRONTERAS


From Zeta Tijuana Printed Edition 12/03/18:

"One sector of the migrant caravan pointed out with name and position to those who consider leaders and spokespersons within the contingent, with those who do not agree with force them to carry out activities in which have seen women, mothers and children exposed little ones. They accuse that this has divided the caravan and has contributed to the uncertainty. Some have chosen to return to their countries or do things on their own Irineo Mujica, coordinator of Pueblo sin Fronteras. David López, member of Pueblo sin Fronteras. David Abud. Milton Benítez The four are some of the characters that a sector of the so-called migrant caravan has fully recognized as leaders and spokespersons within the contingent, whom they also point out to make decisions without the consent of the migrants.

 Several Central Americans who currently reside in the temporary shelter of the "Benito Juárez" Sports Unit in the North Zone of Tijuana, consulted anonymously by ZETA , shared that since the caravan crossed into Mexico, they have been responsible for carrying out activities in the that they no longer agree, mainly because in many of the cases they "subject women to demonstrate" or go to the front with their children in every situation of risk or "confrontation".

 This is what Maria did - her real name for security reasons - who is accompanied by two girls of 5 and 7 years and a sister of 22 years; she pointed out that on Sunday, November 25, she was in the march "that had been said would be peaceful", when the federal police fence was broken, Irineo Mujica himself began to encourage them to go to the accesses of El Chaparral and the Garita de San Ysidro, something that those who apparently "were prepared" did. What caught the attention of the lady and that ultimately caused her to wonder about the legitimacy of the supposed help they are given, is that she realized that during the march several people between the contingent were already carrying their things and their belongings, because they had been told that they were going to be able to pass without problems, but nobody told them how, or that they would be received "by bombs and bullets on the same border".


 This vision was also shared by Miguel -who is also omitted from his real name-, assuring that having gone to the peaceful march was only "a hair-raising and a waste of time", because when everything went out of control, he thought that that would not benefit them at all, "in itself they already criticized us, now it will be worse", was what happened in his head in those moments and returned to the hostel.  Miguel says he is "disillusioned" about the actions that these supposed leaders and spokesmen have been taking, because "they are badly exposing us, putting the women to march and the children, then today (Thursday 29) the hunger strike of pure women, not I know why they do that.

" Virginia -their real name is omitted for safety-, a 30-year-old Guatemalan, seconded Miguel's opinion because she did not agree that they wanted to carry out a hunger strike with women and young children, especially in the rain and inclement weather that occurred that day. "They take advantage of the people, here we come very humble people who want to get ahead and it is easy for them to fall for their intentions, but one must think first about their children, do things differently," he said. Although it has been repeatedly mentioned that the caravan does not have leaders, but spokespersons, this group of migrants knows very well that they are, at the beginning mentioned, who "put on the table what they have to do", as he did Saul - his true name is also omitted. This Honduran migrant stressed that "they dedicate and are in each caravan", but "not always doing things right", however, was also emphatic in saying that it is not the vast majority that follows or believes these characters, as could be appreciated on Sunday, November 25 during the peaceful march that ended in crossing attempts, since only about 500 people participated of the more than 5 thousand 500 that were at that time.

 "The vast majority does not follow the roll, we know who they are, but for some they happen to fuck everyone, so clarify it," he said.

 AGAINST THE SWORD AND THE WALL

 The general disinformation, the thought that everything would be easier, the bad decisions of some of its leaders or spokesmen and the disorientation on the part of the authorities, have provoked a very particular mood among these migrants who have put them between the sword and the wall, between deciding whether to stay and continue insisting, or better to go back home, where danger, violence and poverty await them. What happened on Sunday, November 25, after the peaceful march became an unfortunate mob to try to enter the United States, in addition to the subsequent folds and attacks with gas bombs and rubber bullets used by the armed force of the neighboring country , they calmed the hopes of several of the people who had to be in the middle of the fray.

 In the same way, he shook many of those who waited in their spaces inside the refuge of the "Benito Juárez" Sports Unit in the North Zone, who, beyond seeing what was happening, imagined a war scenario with the thunder of bombs , bullets and helicopters hovering along the channel of the Tijuana River, where the events were presented. The day after what happened, several migrants gave up their illusion of crossing into the United States for reasons that they attributed to fear and reprisals, and opted to request assisted return to their countries of origin. Until Thursday, November 29, the National Institute of Migration (INM) reported that there were 600 assisted returns, 400 of these volunteers, and 200 submitted by the Municipal Police after having committed administrative offenses or crimes.


 For some activists, this situation has been somewhat questionable, because they say that although migrants have not been forced to make these types of decisions, they have not been informed and advised about their legal status and their immigration status in the country, so they can stay in Mexico as a second option. They fear that as a result of this misinformation, in the coming days there will be many more people interested in returning home, where they would be at risk, especially because, in addition to the US President Donald Trump seems not to give in to the requests, it seems that "in Tijuana They are making life difficult for them by not offering them other options.


 "IT WAS NOT WHAT WE THOUGHT"


 Alexis Romero, originally from Tegucigalpa, Honduras, joined the migrant caravan since he knew that this would be done, because among neighbors and friends it began to spread the idea that by reaching the border together, it would be easier for them to obtain asylum. The reason they told him was that due to the situation of violence and poverty that they are currently experiencing in their country, the US government would allow them to present their cases to the immigration authorities.


 Although Alexis knows that since Trump entered the US Presidency everything has become more "chaotic" for migrants, he never imagined that he would actually receive them with gas bombs and rubber bullets once they were near the crossings, as happened that Sunday in the vicinity of El Chaparral and San Ysidro. "It was not what we thought," he said with a downcast expression, and acknowledged that in recent days he has wanted to give up everything, because he comes alone all this way, left two sisters and his mother, and has been "very difficult to "maintain" the force "to endure" the humiliations, the bad conditions in which we are and now even the aggressions of the Trump people ".


 Also from Honduras, Mrs. Josefina travels with two young girls and a teenage son, her situation has also been filled with uncertainty and she does not know what is going to happen now. The day of the demonstration, she left with her three children because the idea was to march peacefully and for a moment, but she did not like "what other people started doing," because "everything went out of control because of bad decisions" of those who considered the "spokesmen" who were in charge of the contingent. Such a situation makes her "doubt" even those who were running the caravan because she does not know what personal intentions they have and, the only thing they generate, is to put everyone at risk. She added that since a few days ago they have not been liking the ways in which they address them and what they have been planning, for that reason, they no longer attend the audiences that they usually do on certain nights inside the hostel.


 COMPLAINTS, DISAPPEARANCES AND ARBITRARY DETENTIONS


 Added to this situation is another problem that even some spokesmen of the caravan, already denounced in a press conference: the "disappearances" of their comrades and various arbitrary arrests against them, accuse, have made the police who are sheltering the shelter . The fact that they are being detained for no apparent reason to present them to the authorities of the INM for immediate deportation has provoked irritation, malaise and fear, which mainly translates to families, who have chosen not to leave the shelter and end up being separated. .


This is the case of Derian, originally from Honduras, who had to live the experience of leaving the shelter for a coffee when it was already getting dark in the city. He was arrested by some municipal police for "looking for drugs", but thanks to the insistence that he was able to prove that he was going with his wife and three daughters, they released him. Since then he does not leave, he does not separate from the girls and asks favors from others so that they can take him food, water or something else from the outside.


 This is added to the terrible conditions in which the refuge is located, totally exceeded in conditions and supplies, as well as in hygiene levels; At first it was announced that it would be for 380 people, then for 2 thousand and, later, for 3 thousand.  More than 6 thousand 064 migrants stay overnight, in unhealthy conditions that are reflected in the constant coughing of many of the inhabitants, derived from the strong flu that have been spreading among all.


Guillermo Trejo Dozal, Secretary of Health in Baja California, said that the overcrowding in the shelter is precisely what worries them the most, which is why it is intended to improve the conditions of the place so that the number of patients will not increase now that the rains are coming and cold. The official confirmed that in Tijuana have been granted 2 thousand 267 consultations for diseases of the upper respiratory tract, there are 101 cases of pediculosis, four of varicella, four positive with HIV and 34 pregnant women. The investment has been one million pesos for every 2 thousand migrants.


 NEW HOSTEL IN EL BARRETAL


 The governor Francisco Vega de Lamadrid accepted that the hostel is completely overrun, however, he blames it is because the federation has not yet entered with the resources that were requested and in the space is working with staff of the City of Tijuana and of the State. In a tour conducted by ZETA on Thursday, November 29, after the rain that fell in the city, he realized that the area of ​​the court ended between puddles of water and a quagmire, so several families decided to leave and begin to settle in the streets surrounding the shelter. The state official continued with his speech that migration is an issue that concerns the Government of the Republic and, therefore, they have to take charge in what corresponds to them; for this they undertook the search for a new space that serves as a second shelter.


The Barretal is the space that has been thought of as the option, located in the Ejido Mariano Matamoros, in the East Zone of the city, where the contingent that exceeds the proportions of the Sports Unit "Benito Juárez" would be sent. However, the authorities themselves have met with a new challenge: the rejection of migrants who do not want to leave the group, who want to stay close to the sentry boxes because they have already requested asylum and have to be on their turn, especially away from the place, where they fear that the authorities will abandon them even more.


 Marrin Adonai Ulloa, originally from Honduras, had been at the shelter for four days when she was asked if she would agree to be relocated to another shelter. His response was that it would complicate everything, since they want the asylum and be together with the group; He is accompanied by his wife and cousin. In contrast, adults have not shown such reluctance, as Mrs. Iris Margoth Oliva, from Honduras, who travels only with her son and is willing to go to another shelter no matter how far it may be, since she wants to leave the current one shelter of unhealthy conditions."


Lideres y Voderos Dividen Caravana
Por, Manuel Ayala - 12/03/18

http://zetatijuana.com/2018/12/lideres-y-voceros-dividen-caravana/

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sheilawasbannedOMG:


MORE ATROCITIES ! So, here is another example of the migrantes being uninformed by these great so-called revolutionary groups from the US:

The "Fiendship Park" has been shut down, which means people meeting up with their families cannot do that any longer.  There are super terrific humanitarian pro-migrante advocates here, one in particular Enrique Morones was interviewed by Frontera:

"The presence of Central American migrants in Playas de Tijuana affected hundreds of families who come to La Amistad Park to reunite with their loved ones through the border wall, since for about three weeks, the place has been closed. 
 This was reported by Enrique Morones, executive director and founder of the pro-migrant association Angeles de la Frontera AC, who considered that measure to be repressive and anti-immigrant. He commented that extreme security began when some residents of the city were confronted with the second part of the caravan that decided to camp near the border wall.
 Morones said that currently anti-immigrant groups come to the area to provoke migrants and US border patrol agents. This situation has led to the indefinite closure of the La Amistad Park gate, so that families traveling from different states of the country and the United States are even further away because of the distance. In addition, several binational events, such as Masses and Christmas inns, are kept in suspense, in which minors usually meet their mother or father who is in Mexican territory. 
Therefore, the founder of the AC declared that it is urgent that the leaders of the migrant caravan be made known so that activists and authorities can guide them in their actions and avoid irresponsible acts such as marches or hunger strikes in El Chaparral."
 https://www.frontera.info/Noticias/2018/12/02/1391957-Cierran-Parque-de-la-Amistad-de-EU-por-presencia-de-migrantes-del-lado-de-Mexico.html

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26 of the current migrantes break on through to the other side, thinking (because the bullshit revolutionaries never told them otherwise) that once they crossed over and even turned themselves in to BP they would receive instantanious asylum:

"Voluntarily, 26 people from the Central American migrant caravan surrendered to the US border patrol agents, in order to start their humanitarian asylum in that country. The delivery was gradual and by a gap in the border wall that is in Playas de Tijuana, while a mass was held in the area of ​​the lighthouse. "God bless you! Blessings! Goodbye! "Were the expressions of the religious, who also prayed for a group of migrants, including minors, to fulfill their purpose: to live in North America.

According to Gabriela Cortés, of the pro-migrant civil association Ángeles de la Frontera AC, people decide to surrender to the border patrol agents with the idea of ​​obtaining their right of asylum. This event automatically triggered the mobilization of the US authorities by sky and earth, in addition some employees began reinforcing work on the wall, despite the fact that at the top and middle of the bars is covered with barbed wire."

https://www.frontera.info/Noticias/2018/12/02/1391968-Migrantes-centroamericanos-brincan-muro-fronterizo-y-se-entregan-al-cruzar-a-EU.html

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Further, over 60 % of the migrantes from the caravana are suffering from respiratory illness, they are fucking sick fucking sick fucking sick plus chicken pox has broken out. and there is no treatment or care for them.  Where are these great American "radical" groups who supposedly mobilized them and set them up for disaster?  Why aren't they providing medical care?  Where the fuck are they?  They are not providing shelter, food, medical care warmth security or clothing, nothing...any of the basics. They are letting the migrantes rot .  They need to go back to the United States and get the fuck out of here before anyone else gets hurt or sick.  I would never want these so-called "radical" groups watching my back, because they never would or could -they have no sense of logistics or priorities, what a bunch of bullshit immature reckless amateurs. They are NOT humanitarians.

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Jorge Ramos was in town a few days back:

"The situation of the Central American migrant caravan is the shared fault between the governments of Central America, Mexico and the United States, said Jorge Ramos Ávalos. The journalist toured this Wednesday Benito Juarez Sports Unit, which for two weeks has become a "Small Central America", which is home to 6 thousand 62 children, women and men of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. There, the migrants live in unhealthy conditions due to the overcrowding of the makeshift houses in each available shelter space. They have also felt the rejection of a part of the citizens who live in Tijuana, considering them as invaders. "I am saddened that in Tijuana there are few who are expressing their racism and their prejudices to Central Americans. We must not become Donald Trump. We must treat the Central Americans with the same generosity and solidarity that I would like to be treated, "Ramos said. The clashes with tear gas bombs between the CBP agents and migrants, he said, will further damage the image of Donald Trump, president of the United States, who described the caravan as an invasion. "This is not resolved with bureaucratic delays or with the wall. The only way to solve it is immigration reform in the United States and migration cooperation among the countries of Central America, "he said. For this reason, the journalist and opinion leader proposed that North America send migration judges to start the process of asylum for the people of the caravan, instead of militarizing the border."

https://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/noticias/29112018/1391157-situacion-de-caravana-es-responsabilidad-de-gobiernos-jorge-ramos.html

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And, he is correct.

Adios, I hope you guys cover these aspects because they are important. I'll be back in a couple of days...unless i am banned of course.
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3 days ago

Here are more updates - 12/01 @ 5:45pm:

Okay we were talking about Pueblos sin Fronteras, then a new group popped up on the scene, this  group is also from the USA, Movimiento Cosecha (and supports PSF), and now yet another group of instigators is on the scene, also from the US.

This newest group is part of  the (take a breath, long title) " Coalicion Para Defender La Accion Afirmative, La Integracion y Derechos de Immigrantes y Luchar Por La Igualidad Por Cualquier Medio" also known as BAMN.

Apparently within the caravana, a decision had been made to march once again - today at noon - and according to Irinea Mujica the BAMN people are "anarchists from the USA."  This report states that the BAMN people dissuaded the migrantes to march today.

But who organized them to march today in the first place ?  I don't trust Mujica.

[VIDEO] Migrantes Desisten de Marcha a San Ysidro
Por, Uriel Saucedo

https://www.elsoldetijuana.com.mx/local/video-migrantes-desisten-de-marchar-a-san-ysidro-2743226.html

there's more events...I have to go put veggies in the pot roast.



Prior to the move to Barretal, there were hundreds who resisted and fear swept through the caravana based on rumors that moving would minimize their attempts to achieve asylum. This report says one man from Nicaragua is advising them not to go to Barretal. Some are finally realizing that just being in TIJ is no assurance of immediate asylum - remember, this is what they were told.  They were told it would only take three days to get into the USA and they didn't need any paperwork.

Cierra el Alberque Benito Juarez, Cientos Se Resistan
Por, Khennia Reyes

https://www.frontera.info/Noticias/2018/12/01/1391674-Cierra-el-albergue-Benito-Juarez-cientos-se-resisten.html


Ok ...there are problems at the site where the authorities have moved the migrantes  - El Barretal.
According to Frontera, this move has been out of control due to a group of migrantes urging the other migrantes not to go along with the Mexican authorities.

On the scene once again is Mujica (doesn't he have dual citizenship ?)who claimed previously he has not instigated discord, but supports the migrantes if they want to march again to the SYPOE.  Meanwhile, Sergio Tamai takes control (BTW, Sergio is supposed to be retired - and it's a good thing he is there) and there is an altercation between Sergio & Mujica.

Sergio is able to calm the migrantes down to an extent, advising them to stay put especially to care for their health and to appease the community of TIJ. Yet, hundreds of them decide to camp out on Cinco de Mayo which is a disaster waiting to happen.  Still more who wanted to stay outside of the baseball field - but could not, authorities have shut it and adjoining streets down to the migrantes - are missing or unaccounted for. And no one seems to know where they are:

Sin Control La Caravana Migrante en Tijuana
Por, Khennia Reyes

https://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/noticias/01122018/1391769-sin-control-la-caravana-migrante-en-tijuana.html

Don't know what is going to happen next.




Finally, here is BAMN (By Any Means Necessary):

Wiki - with history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMN

BAMN Site:

http://www.bamn.com/

Well I guess so by any means necessary...using the migrantes, manipulating them, lying to them as if they have not suffered enough. Christ.
Uncle Bob - 6 days ago: 

Wow..the jig is up..someone’s post mentioning Pueblo Sin Fronteras was just deleted..PSF is affliated with
The CARA coalition consists of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, the American Immigration Council, the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, all groups advocating for legal status for illegal immigrants and expanded immigration overall.
wow,,guess where they get their money from?
These organizations have been funded by a number of major left-of-center grantmaking foundations, including the Open Society Foundations,
MacArthur Foundation,
Ford Foundation,
and Carnegie Corporation of New York.

Wow..ok..if this gets deleted, I’ll just keep posting it
sheilawasbanned OMG in response:
 Hi Uncle Bob - running here so this should be quick.  Both Padre Solalinde and Father Patrick Murphy (local - of Padre Chavas in TIJ)) have blasted Pueblosin Fronteras for what they call "irresponsible" planning of this caravan.  No money, chaos, no information,, etc.

Unknown if this was a faction of PSF acting out alone. It could be.

Meanwhile Sergio Tamai  (Mexicali) of Angeles de Frontera pleaded with Pueblo Sin Fronteras to NOT hold the demonstration on last Sunday.  You can look Sergio up on google, we love him alot.

From El Sol:

"Tijuana.- The founder of Ángeles sin Fronteras, Sergio Tamai, asked Irineo Mújica, from Pueblo sin Fronteras, not to summon the migrants to demonstrate tomorrow in the streets of the city in the direction of El Chaparral.
 The fact of going to make demonstrations in the booths only gives rise to Donald Trump justify the use of force against the caravan, he said. "They're going to be a minority again, they do not represent the majority, those are going to cause the lanes to close, as Trump threatens to close the gate and all the Tijuana residents will get angry." Local They will give legal advice for asylum of Caravana Migrante in the US "I make a call to Irineo Mújica, to Town without Borders, and any person that well intentioned or ill-intentioned, that stop that manifestation of Sunday morning, and of once we indicated it, anyone that mobilizes, any that approaches the sentry box , nothing else will do the job to Trump and will justify it, and we are not against, Angels without Borders, the Tijuana Migrant Alliance, the people who support them are telling them, stop, it is a moment of patience ", he pointed Migrants wishing to enter the United States should forget the option of trying to cross by force as they did on the southern border of Mexico, as this would only make things worse, at the same time, he said, they should focus on the process of Asylum request The demonstration is considered to start at ten in the morning, so it is recommended to take the necessary precautions if you are going to transit near El Chaparral. "

https://www.elsoldetijuana.com.mx/local/pide-angeles-sin-fronteras-que-migrantes-no-se-manifiesten-2710459.html

The worse is yet to come, heavy rains expected thursday then again on the weekend, it is a disaster.l
end comments .

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 - I made a mistake by saying the the streets were closed off by the ballpark - nope, there are still at least 1,000 migrantes camped out on the street, we saw them yesterday. Also, it was one migrante killed in the street who was run over by drunk driver close to El Barretal - the other was badly injured.  And, if you go to the links you can see the migrantes are being watched closely at Barretal, hundreds of them have been arrested., El Sol is reporting around 3,000 migrantes are unaccounted for, to date 236 of them have arrested by the local authorities. 


 - More rain on the way tonight through the weekend....which means we will lose power here.

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Here are the links:

Note: Yesterday at 7:44  Frontera reports there have been 4,189 executions in Tijuana over the past two years:

 - From Frontera:

Dos Anos, 4,189 Muertos
Por, Angel F. Gonzaleaz- 12/03/18 @7:44am 

 - From Zeta: 

 - Note: Yesterday at 11:14am Zeta reports there have been 16 executions in Tijuana during the first two days of this month including another head located in a cooler, a body with arms cut off sitting upright in a chair with "Por Rata" carved into his body.  Please note that none of these victims were "18 years old".  With these figures Zeta brings the YTD total executions up to 2,299:

Van 16 Ejecutados En Diciembre Entre Los Reportes Un Desmembrado y Una Cabeza Humana en Hielera

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Links:


Frontera Policiaca


Frontera - Caravana Migrante 


Frontera - Migrantes Tijuana


El Sol - Migrantes  - Note about 3K of the migrantes unaccounted for


Zeta Tijuana.   


Aristegui Noticias 


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I'm going back to bed.

Links For Caravana Migrante:Special Report From Zeta On Pueblas Sin Fronteras:They Are Forcing Migrantes To Participate In Marches - Information on Movimiento Cosecha, and BAMN Involvement With the Caravana - And Yes We are Still Having Executions: Over 200 In TIJ for the Month of November And @ 7:44 am Yesterday, Frontera Reports 4,189 Executions In TIJ During The Past Two Years !!! Zeta notes YTD Total Executions in TIJ as of 12/03/18 Is 2,299

I have not been here because I had surgery yesterday - this wasn't in the Doctors office surgery this was at the SRS Hospital way out in Kearny Mesa.  When we finally came home I was able to check the news and here there was a shitty little message under this blog. I was going to try to answer it but I was too drowsy then of course as usual the connection went down:


maggie

The comment:

Dreamer said...
Great to see you back Maggie! I don't see anything about the poor 18 years olds executed in TJ. Do you have any information. Nothing in the papers new.


 I put that up in case "Dreamer" decides to delete their message. What an idiot. Must be freakin blind.
Maybe just dumb and blind.


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Meanwhile, in Tijuana for the month of November we are over 200 executions - and these are not just of 18 year olds.  Police officer executed in TIJ, another Police officer executed in Primo Tapia Rosarito, many women including the body of a pregnant woman located yesterday in the channel executed; minors executed along with not just "18 year olds", entire families in their homes executed,  men quite a bit older than 18 year old men executed.  Mutilations, bodies left in public places and on the streets for the whole world to see.What kind of a bullshit question was that anyway? When I am somewhat better I will be back with the latest reports on the state of affairs in all of the Municipalities which is bleak. I don't know when that is going to be, right now the pain medicine they gave me is simply not working, I could not sleep last night, I can't walk at all or put any weight on my one leg and I don't feel good, in fact, I feel like shit.

Then of course, the most pressing issue of all of our time - the migrantes.  What bothers me the most (other than the fact that the migrantes are suffering) are these American groups of  so-called "Revolutionaries" who orchestrated the caravana and the rush on the border - they need to take a long walk on a short pier.


The Migrantes In Tijuana:

I have not been so polite addressing them on this link from The Intercept, yet as far as I can see, no one seems to want to discuss this issue, not just here but on other "progressive" sites and in the USMSM.  Uncle Bob brought the subject up, I am "sheilawasbannedOMG".  So in order to save time, here is that link where I have added links from the local news sources going way back  to the denunciation of these groups by Padre Solalinde  and Sergio Tamai.  I fired one off before we left yesterday and am adding the latest report from the printed issue of Zeta after this blog.

Why won't anyone acknowledge this huge mistake by these American Groups and NGO's ???  Shameful.

 - From The Intercept

Photos of children Being Teargassed Stoke Outrage - While Playing Into Trump's Manufactured Border Crisis
by, Natasha Lennard - 11/27/18 

Edit:  On second thought here are the comments - most importantly Zeta points out the migrantes have been coerced and forced by members of Pueblo Sin Fronteras to march - those who were interviewed by Zeta did so anonymously - very important report from yesterday: 


 - sheilawasbannedomg:



MIGRANTES WISE UP TO PUEBLO SIN FRONTERAS


From Zeta Tijuana Printed Edition 12/03/18:

"One sector of the migrant caravan pointed out with name and position to those who consider leaders and spokespersons within the contingent, with those who do not agree with force them to carry out activities in which have seen women, mothers and children exposed little ones. They accuse that this has divided the caravan and has contributed to the uncertainty. Some have chosen to return to their countries or do things on their own Irineo Mujica, coordinator of Pueblo sin Fronteras. David López, member of Pueblo sin Fronteras. David Abud. Milton Benítez The four are some of the characters that a sector of the so-called migrant caravan has fully recognized as leaders and spokespersons within the contingent, whom they also point out to make decisions without the consent of the migrants.

 Several Central Americans who currently reside in the temporary shelter of the "Benito Juárez" Sports Unit in the North Zone of Tijuana, consulted anonymously by ZETA , shared that since the caravan crossed into Mexico, they have been responsible for carrying out activities in the that they no longer agree, mainly because in many of the cases they "subject women to demonstrate" or go to the front with their children in every situation of risk or "confrontation".

 This is what Maria did - her real name for security reasons - who is accompanied by two girls of 5 and 7 years and a sister of 22 years; she pointed out that on Sunday, November 25, she was in the march "that had been said would be peaceful", when the federal police fence was broken, Irineo Mujica himself began to encourage them to go to the accesses of El Chaparral and the Garita de San Ysidro, something that those who apparently "were prepared" did. What caught the attention of the lady and that ultimately caused her to wonder about the legitimacy of the supposed help they are given, is that she realized that during the march several people between the contingent were already carrying their things and their belongings, because they had been told that they were going to be able to pass without problems, but nobody told them how, or that they would be received "by bombs and bullets on the same border".


 This vision was also shared by Miguel -who is also omitted from his real name-, assuring that having gone to the peaceful march was only "a hair-raising and a waste of time", because when everything went out of control, he thought that that would not benefit them at all, "in itself they already criticized us, now it will be worse", was what happened in his head in those moments and returned to the hostel.  Miguel says he is "disillusioned" about the actions that these supposed leaders and spokesmen have been taking, because "they are badly exposing us, putting the women to march and the children, then today (Thursday 29) the hunger strike of pure women, not I know why they do that.

" Virginia -their real name is omitted for safety-, a 30-year-old Guatemalan, seconded Miguel's opinion because she did not agree that they wanted to carry out a hunger strike with women and young children, especially in the rain and inclement weather that occurred that day. "They take advantage of the people, here we come very humble people who want to get ahead and it is easy for them to fall for their intentions, but one must think first about their children, do things differently," he said. Although it has been repeatedly mentioned that the caravan does not have leaders, but spokespersons, this group of migrants knows very well that they are, at the beginning mentioned, who "put on the table what they have to do", as he did Saul - his true name is also omitted. This Honduran migrant stressed that "they dedicate and are in each caravan", but "not always doing things right", however, was also emphatic in saying that it is not the vast majority that follows or believes these characters, as could be appreciated on Sunday, November 25 during the peaceful march that ended in crossing attempts, since only about 500 people participated of the more than 5 thousand 500 that were at that time.

 "The vast majority does not follow the roll, we know who they are, but for some they happen to fuck everyone, so clarify it," he said.

 AGAINST THE SWORD AND THE WALL

 The general disinformation, the thought that everything would be easier, the bad decisions of some of its leaders or spokesmen and the disorientation on the part of the authorities, have provoked a very particular mood among these migrants who have put them between the sword and the wall, between deciding whether to stay and continue insisting, or better to go back home, where danger, violence and poverty await them. What happened on Sunday, November 25, after the peaceful march became an unfortunate mob to try to enter the United States, in addition to the subsequent folds and attacks with gas bombs and rubber bullets used by the armed force of the neighboring country , they calmed the hopes of several of the people who had to be in the middle of the fray.

 In the same way, he shook many of those who waited in their spaces inside the refuge of the "Benito Juárez" Sports Unit in the North Zone, who, beyond seeing what was happening, imagined a war scenario with the thunder of bombs , bullets and helicopters hovering along the channel of the Tijuana River, where the events were presented. The day after what happened, several migrants gave up their illusion of crossing into the United States for reasons that they attributed to fear and reprisals, and opted to request assisted return to their countries of origin. Until Thursday, November 29, the National Institute of Migration (INM) reported that there were 600 assisted returns, 400 of these volunteers, and 200 submitted by the Municipal Police after having committed administrative offenses or crimes.


 For some activists, this situation has been somewhat questionable, because they say that although migrants have not been forced to make these types of decisions, they have not been informed and advised about their legal status and their immigration status in the country, so they can stay in Mexico as a second option. They fear that as a result of this misinformation, in the coming days there will be many more people interested in returning home, where they would be at risk, especially because, in addition to the US President Donald Trump seems not to give in to the requests, it seems that "in Tijuana They are making life difficult for them by not offering them other options.


 "IT WAS NOT WHAT WE THOUGHT"


 Alexis Romero, originally from Tegucigalpa, Honduras, joined the migrant caravan since he knew that this would be done, because among neighbors and friends it began to spread the idea that by reaching the border together, it would be easier for them to obtain asylum. The reason they told him was that due to the situation of violence and poverty that they are currently experiencing in their country, the US government would allow them to present their cases to the immigration authorities.


 Although Alexis knows that since Trump entered the US Presidency everything has become more "chaotic" for migrants, he never imagined that he would actually receive them with gas bombs and rubber bullets once they were near the crossings, as happened that Sunday in the vicinity of El Chaparral and San Ysidro. "It was not what we thought," he said with a downcast expression, and acknowledged that in recent days he has wanted to give up everything, because he comes alone all this way, left two sisters and his mother, and has been "very difficult to "maintain" the force "to endure" the humiliations, the bad conditions in which we are and now even the aggressions of the Trump people ".


 Also from Honduras, Mrs. Josefina travels with two young girls and a teenage son, her situation has also been filled with uncertainty and she does not know what is going to happen now. The day of the demonstration, she left with her three children because the idea was to march peacefully and for a moment, but she did not like "what other people started doing," because "everything went out of control because of bad decisions" of those who considered the "spokesmen" who were in charge of the contingent. Such a situation makes her "doubt" even those who were running the caravan because she does not know what personal intentions they have and, the only thing they generate, is to put everyone at risk. She added that since a few days ago they have not been liking the ways in which they address them and what they have been planning, for that reason, they no longer attend the audiences that they usually do on certain nights inside the hostel.


 COMPLAINTS, DISAPPEARANCES AND ARBITRARY DETENTIONS


 Added to this situation is another problem that even some spokesmen of the caravan, already denounced in a press conference: the "disappearances" of their comrades and various arbitrary arrests against them, accuse, have made the police who are sheltering the shelter . The fact that they are being detained for no apparent reason to present them to the authorities of the INM for immediate deportation has provoked irritation, malaise and fear, which mainly translates to families, who have chosen not to leave the shelter and end up being separated. .


This is the case of Derian, originally from Honduras, who had to live the experience of leaving the shelter for a coffee when it was already getting dark in the city. He was arrested by some municipal police for "looking for drugs", but thanks to the insistence that he was able to prove that he was going with his wife and three daughters, they released him. Since then he does not leave, he does not separate from the girls and asks favors from others so that they can take him food, water or something else from the outside.


 This is added to the terrible conditions in which the refuge is located, totally exceeded in conditions and supplies, as well as in hygiene levels; At first it was announced that it would be for 380 people, then for 2 thousand and, later, for 3 thousand.  More than 6 thousand 064 migrants stay overnight, in unhealthy conditions that are reflected in the constant coughing of many of the inhabitants, derived from the strong flu that have been spreading among all.


Guillermo Trejo Dozal, Secretary of Health in Baja California, said that the overcrowding in the shelter is precisely what worries them the most, which is why it is intended to improve the conditions of the place so that the number of patients will not increase now that the rains are coming and cold. The official confirmed that in Tijuana have been granted 2 thousand 267 consultations for diseases of the upper respiratory tract, there are 101 cases of pediculosis, four of varicella, four positive with HIV and 34 pregnant women. The investment has been one million pesos for every 2 thousand migrants.


 NEW HOSTEL IN EL BARRETAL


 The governor Francisco Vega de Lamadrid accepted that the hostel is completely overrun, however, he blames it is because the federation has not yet entered with the resources that were requested and in the space is working with staff of the City of Tijuana and of the State. In a tour conducted by ZETA on Thursday, November 29, after the rain that fell in the city, he realized that the area of ​​the court ended between puddles of water and a quagmire, so several families decided to leave and begin to settle in the streets surrounding the shelter. The state official continued with his speech that migration is an issue that concerns the Government of the Republic and, therefore, they have to take charge in what corresponds to them; for this they undertook the search for a new space that serves as a second shelter.


The Barretal is the space that has been thought of as the option, located in the Ejido Mariano Matamoros, in the East Zone of the city, where the contingent that exceeds the proportions of the Sports Unit "Benito Juárez" would be sent. However, the authorities themselves have met with a new challenge: the rejection of migrants who do not want to leave the group, who want to stay close to the sentry boxes because they have already requested asylum and have to be on their turn, especially away from the place, where they fear that the authorities will abandon them even more.


 Marrin Adonai Ulloa, originally from Honduras, had been at the shelter for four days when she was asked if she would agree to be relocated to another shelter. His response was that it would complicate everything, since they want the asylum and be together with the group; He is accompanied by his wife and cousin. In contrast, adults have not shown such reluctance, as Mrs. Iris Margoth Oliva, from Honduras, who travels only with her son and is willing to go to another shelter no matter how far it may be, since she wants to leave the current one shelter of unhealthy conditions."


Lideres y Voderos Dividen Caravana
Por, Manuel Ayala - 12/03/18

http://zetatijuana.com/2018/12/lideres-y-voceros-dividen-caravana/

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sheilawasbannedOMG:


MORE ATROCITIES ! So, here is another example of the migrantes being uninformed by these great so-called revolutionary groups from the US:

The "Fiendship Park" has been shut down, which means people meeting up with their families cannot do that any longer.  There are super terrific humanitarian pro-migrante advocates here, one in particular Enrique Morones was interviewed by Frontera:

"The presence of Central American migrants in Playas de Tijuana affected hundreds of families who come to La Amistad Park to reunite with their loved ones through the border wall, since for about three weeks, the place has been closed. 
 This was reported by Enrique Morones, executive director and founder of the pro-migrant association Angeles de la Frontera AC, who considered that measure to be repressive and anti-immigrant. He commented that extreme security began when some residents of the city were confronted with the second part of the caravan that decided to camp near the border wall.
 Morones said that currently anti-immigrant groups come to the area to provoke migrants and US border patrol agents. This situation has led to the indefinite closure of the La Amistad Park gate, so that families traveling from different states of the country and the United States are even further away because of the distance. In addition, several binational events, such as Masses and Christmas inns, are kept in suspense, in which minors usually meet their mother or father who is in Mexican territory. 
Therefore, the founder of the AC declared that it is urgent that the leaders of the migrant caravan be made known so that activists and authorities can guide them in their actions and avoid irresponsible acts such as marches or hunger strikes in El Chaparral."
 https://www.frontera.info/Noticias/2018/12/02/1391957-Cierran-Parque-de-la-Amistad-de-EU-por-presencia-de-migrantes-del-lado-de-Mexico.html

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26 of the current migrantes break on through to the other side, thinking (because the bullshit revolutionaries never told them otherwise) that once they crossed over and even turned themselves in to BP they would receive instantanious asylum:

"Voluntarily, 26 people from the Central American migrant caravan surrendered to the US border patrol agents, in order to start their humanitarian asylum in that country. The delivery was gradual and by a gap in the border wall that is in Playas de Tijuana, while a mass was held in the area of ​​the lighthouse. "God bless you! Blessings! Goodbye! "Were the expressions of the religious, who also prayed for a group of migrants, including minors, to fulfill their purpose: to live in North America.

According to Gabriela Cortés, of the pro-migrant civil association Ángeles de la Frontera AC, people decide to surrender to the border patrol agents with the idea of ​​obtaining their right of asylum. This event automatically triggered the mobilization of the US authorities by sky and earth, in addition some employees began reinforcing work on the wall, despite the fact that at the top and middle of the bars is covered with barbed wire."

https://www.frontera.info/Noticias/2018/12/02/1391968-Migrantes-centroamericanos-brincan-muro-fronterizo-y-se-entregan-al-cruzar-a-EU.html

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Further, over 60 % of the migrantes from the caravana are suffering from respiratory illness, they are fucking sick fucking sick fucking sick plus chicken pox has broken out. and there is no treatment or care for them.  Where are these great American "radical" groups who supposedly mobilized them and set them up for disaster?  Why aren't they providing medical care?  Where the fuck are they?  They are not providing shelter, food, medical care warmth security or clothing, nothing...any of the basics. They are letting the migrantes rot .  They need to go back to the United States and get the fuck out of here before anyone else gets hurt or sick.  I would never want these so-called "radical" groups watching my back, because they never would or could -they have no sense of logistics or priorities, what a bunch of bullshit immature reckless amateurs. They are NOT humanitarians.

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Jorge Ramos was in town a few days back:

"The situation of the Central American migrant caravan is the shared fault between the governments of Central America, Mexico and the United States, said Jorge Ramos Ávalos. The journalist toured this Wednesday Benito Juarez Sports Unit, which for two weeks has become a "Small Central America", which is home to 6 thousand 62 children, women and men of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. There, the migrants live in unhealthy conditions due to the overcrowding of the makeshift houses in each available shelter space. They have also felt the rejection of a part of the citizens who live in Tijuana, considering them as invaders. "I am saddened that in Tijuana there are few who are expressing their racism and their prejudices to Central Americans. We must not become Donald Trump. We must treat the Central Americans with the same generosity and solidarity that I would like to be treated, "Ramos said. The clashes with tear gas bombs between the CBP agents and migrants, he said, will further damage the image of Donald Trump, president of the United States, who described the caravan as an invasion. "This is not resolved with bureaucratic delays or with the wall. The only way to solve it is immigration reform in the United States and migration cooperation among the countries of Central America, "he said. For this reason, the journalist and opinion leader proposed that North America send migration judges to start the process of asylum for the people of the caravan, instead of militarizing the border."

https://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/noticias/29112018/1391157-situacion-de-caravana-es-responsabilidad-de-gobiernos-jorge-ramos.html

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And, he is correct.

Adios, I hope you guys cover these aspects because they are important. I'll be back in a couple of days...unless i am banned of course.
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3 days ago

Here are more updates - 12/01 @ 5:45pm:

Okay we were talking about Pueblos sin Fronteras, then a new group popped up on the scene, this  group is also from the USA, Movimiento Cosecha (and supports PSF), and now yet another group of instigators is on the scene, also from the US.

This newest group is part of  the (take a breath, long title) " Coalicion Para Defender La Accion Afirmative, La Integracion y Derechos de Immigrantes y Luchar Por La Igualidad Por Cualquier Medio" also known as BAMN.

Apparently within the caravana, a decision had been made to march once again - today at noon - and according to Irinea Mujica the BAMN people are "anarchists from the USA."  This report states that the BAMN people dissuaded the migrantes to march today.

But who organized them to march today in the first place ?  I don't trust Mujica.

[VIDEO] Migrantes Desisten de Marcha a San Ysidro
Por, Uriel Saucedo

https://www.elsoldetijuana.com.mx/local/video-migrantes-desisten-de-marchar-a-san-ysidro-2743226.html

there's more events...I have to go put veggies in the pot roast.



Prior to the move to Barretal, there were hundreds who resisted and fear swept through the caravana based on rumors that moving would minimize their attempts to achieve asylum. This report says one man from Nicaragua is advising them not to go to Barretal. Some are finally realizing that just being in TIJ is no assurance of immediate asylum - remember, this is what they were told.  They were told it would only take three days to get into the USA and they didn't need any paperwork.

Cierra el Alberque Benito Juarez, Cientos Se Resistan
Por, Khennia Reyes

https://www.frontera.info/Noticias/2018/12/01/1391674-Cierra-el-albergue-Benito-Juarez-cientos-se-resisten.html


Ok ...there are problems at the site where the authorities have moved the migrantes  - El Barretal.
According to Frontera, this move has been out of control due to a group of migrantes urging the other migrantes not to go along with the Mexican authorities.

On the scene once again is Mujica (doesn't he have dual citizenship ?)who claimed previously he has not instigated discord, but supports the migrantes if they want to march again to the SYPOE.  Meanwhile, Sergio Tamai takes control (BTW, Sergio is supposed to be retired - and it's a good thing he is there) and there is an altercation between Sergio & Mujica.

Sergio is able to calm the migrantes down to an extent, advising them to stay put especially to care for their health and to appease the community of TIJ. Yet, hundreds of them decide to camp out on Cinco de Mayo which is a disaster waiting to happen.  Still more who wanted to stay outside of the baseball field - but could not, authorities have shut it and adjoining streets down to the migrantes - are missing or unaccounted for. And no one seems to know where they are:

Sin Control La Caravana Migrante en Tijuana
Por, Khennia Reyes

https://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/noticias/01122018/1391769-sin-control-la-caravana-migrante-en-tijuana.html

Don't know what is going to happen next.




Finally, here is BAMN (By Any Means Necessary):

Wiki - with history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMN

BAMN Site:

http://www.bamn.com/

Well I guess so by any means necessary...using the migrantes, manipulating them, lying to them as if they have not suffered enough. Christ.
Uncle Bob - 6 days ago: 

Wow..the jig is up..someone’s post mentioning Pueblo Sin Fronteras was just deleted..PSF is affliated with
The CARA coalition consists of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, the American Immigration Council, the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, all groups advocating for legal status for illegal immigrants and expanded immigration overall.
wow,,guess where they get their money from?
These organizations have been funded by a number of major left-of-center grantmaking foundations, including the Open Society Foundations,
MacArthur Foundation,
Ford Foundation,
and Carnegie Corporation of New York.

Wow..ok..if this gets deleted, I’ll just keep posting it
sheilawasbanned OMG in response:
 Hi Uncle Bob - running here so this should be quick.  Both Padre Solalinde and Father Patrick Murphy (local - of Padre Chavas in TIJ)) have blasted Pueblosin Fronteras for what they call "irresponsible" planning of this caravan.  No money, chaos, no information,, etc.

Unknown if this was a faction of PSF acting out alone. It could be.

Meanwhile Sergio Tamai  (Mexicali) of Angeles de Frontera pleaded with Pueblo Sin Fronteras to NOT hold the demonstration on last Sunday.  You can look Sergio up on google, we love him alot.

From El Sol:

"Tijuana.- The founder of Ángeles sin Fronteras, Sergio Tamai, asked Irineo Mújica, from Pueblo sin Fronteras, not to summon the migrants to demonstrate tomorrow in the streets of the city in the direction of El Chaparral.
 The fact of going to make demonstrations in the booths only gives rise to Donald Trump justify the use of force against the caravan, he said. "They're going to be a minority again, they do not represent the majority, those are going to cause the lanes to close, as Trump threatens to close the gate and all the Tijuana residents will get angry." Local They will give legal advice for asylum of Caravana Migrante in the US "I make a call to Irineo Mújica, to Town without Borders, and any person that well intentioned or ill-intentioned, that stop that manifestation of Sunday morning, and of once we indicated it, anyone that mobilizes, any that approaches the sentry box , nothing else will do the job to Trump and will justify it, and we are not against, Angels without Borders, the Tijuana Migrant Alliance, the people who support them are telling them, stop, it is a moment of patience ", he pointed Migrants wishing to enter the United States should forget the option of trying to cross by force as they did on the southern border of Mexico, as this would only make things worse, at the same time, he said, they should focus on the process of Asylum request The demonstration is considered to start at ten in the morning, so it is recommended to take the necessary precautions if you are going to transit near El Chaparral. "

https://www.elsoldetijuana.com.mx/local/pide-angeles-sin-fronteras-que-migrantes-no-se-manifiesten-2710459.html

The worse is yet to come, heavy rains expected thursday then again on the weekend, it is a disaster.l
end comments .

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 - I made a mistake by saying the the streets were closed off by the ballpark - nope, there are still at least 1,000 migrantes camped out on the street, we saw them yesterday. Also, it was one migrante killed in the street who was run over by drunk driver close to El Barretal - the other was badly injured.  And, if you go to the links you can see the migrantes are being watched closely at Barretal, hundreds of them have been arrested., El Sol is reporting around 3,000 migrantes are unaccounted for, to date 236 of them have arrested by the local authorities. 


 - More rain on the way tonight through the weekend....which means we will lose power here.

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Here are the links:

Note: Yesterday at 7:44  Frontera reports there have been 4,189 executions in Tijuana over the past two years:

 - From Frontera:

Dos Anos, 4,189 Muertos
Por, Angel F. Gonzaleaz- 12/03/18 @7:44am 

 - From Zeta: 

 - Note: Yesterday at 11:14am Zeta reports there have been 16 executions in Tijuana during the first two days of this month including another head located in a cooler, a body with arms cut off sitting upright in a chair with "Por Rata" carved into his body.  Please note that none of these victims were "18 years old".  With these figures Zeta brings the YTD total executions up to 2,299:

Van 16 Ejecutados En Diciembre Entre Los Reportes Un Desmembrado y Una Cabeza Humana en Hielera

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Links:


Frontera Policiaca


Frontera - Caravana Migrante 


Frontera - Migrantes Tijuana


El Sol - Migrantes  - Note about 3K of the migrantes unaccounted for


Zeta Tijuana.   


Aristegui Noticias 


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I'm going back to bed.

Thursday, November 29, 2018

We Should Have Listened To Padre Solalinde, Father Patrick Murphy and Sergio Tamai: The Migrantes Were Deceived By Extremists of Pueblo Sin Fronteras

This will be quick because it is late here, but I wanted to get some things down and give you some links before the storm arrives and we lose power here.

First up (if you haven't read these reports already), the Democracy Now! coverage of events in Tijuana, with special coverage of the US intervention into Honduran affairs and Dana Frank's book which illustrate how the US intervention has completely influenced the migrante exodus. Still have not heard much on that subject in the MSM.

 Please note Honduran President Hernandez's brother arrested on cocaine trafficking charges.  Must run in the family. I think I ended the last blog by linking a report that President Hernandez wants an investigation into USBP firing rubber bullets at the migrantes  - really?  Since when has Hernandez or Jimmy "The Rat" Morales, President of Guatemala ever been concerned over the migrantes?

Democracy Now !

Immigration|Democracy Now


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I mentioned last blog that my neighbors (and many others...I was on the fence but not completely dismissing this theory)) thought last Sunday's catastrophic events were produced by Trump himself to insure he would attain his "Wall" agenda.  Not so fast.  On last Saturday, Sergio Tamai of Mexicali, founder of Angeles Sin Fronteras and also speaking for the Alianza Migrante Tijuana asked Irineo Mujica of Pueblo Sin Fronteras to reconsider and cancel the planned demonstration as the results would benefit Trump's agenda, and defeat the intentions of the migrantes.

 - From: El Sol de Tijuana:

Pide Angeles sin Frontera que Migrantes No Se Manifestan


Almost a week before the demonstration, Sergio shared the information with Telemundo 20 of San Diego that a masse crossing was being planned at SYPOE, who passed it along to Fox News and other right wing news outlets. Here, because of Telemundo 20 the information went viral and scared people.

 - From Fox News:

Migrant Caravan Members May Be Planning 'Human Stampede' At US Border: Aid Group

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 - But it wasn't just a free for all.  Both Padre Solalinde and Father Patrick Murphy (Casa Del Migrante/Padre Chavas Tijuana) have condemned Pueblos Sin Fronteras - or at least a faction of that group who Padre Solalinde calls "extremists" with irresponsible and unforgivable behavior, of exploiting and deceiving the migrantes to forward their own political agenda.  For the longest time, I agreed with Univision that this caravan was not organized by any group. I should have listened to the Padres.

 - From Frontera:

Lamenta Padre Murphy El Engano a Mgrantes de Caravana


Pasted:


" Father Patrick Murphy, director of the Casa del Migrante, lamented that the families of the Central American caravan have been tricked into entering the United States through a humanitarian asylum.

That has been noticed because people do not have their documentation and are unaware of the process, they also believed that in three days they would be in the American Union.

Like the priest and activist Alejandro Solalinde, Muphy railed against the organization Pueblos Sin Fronteras for allegedly organizing the exodus and bringing him to Tijuana.

"They did not inform them very well. They made false promises.

Cross in three days? I always had my suspicions, why are they doing that? Why not seek a dialogue with those who work at the border? They have a very political strategy and want to enter forces and this time it will not happen again, "he said.

The asylum process lasts a long time and very few will receive it, for what others will have for their Mexican dream, he added.

He explained that this situation will increase the work of the pro-migrant civil associations, who will have to support those people who fulfill their Mexican dream when establishing in the city.

Hence, he proposed that the governments of Mexico, the United States and Central America should generate actions to serve their communities.

The director of the Casa del Migrante said that Tijuana always arrives migrants of different nationalities, the difference is that this time they did it in caravans, in which they exceed 6 thousand members.

In that sense, he described as slow the preparation of the authorities to deal with the migrant exodus.

"The response of the authorities has been extremely slow.

For more than a month, every Thursday, we started having meetings with the shelters and the government of the three levels, there were always many promises. I always insisted that we make decisions because the migrants were going to arrive and that was no secret, "said the father.
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Worse, Padre Solalinde offered up this information days earlier through several interviews where he also brings up trafficking in arms and people  - at least by what he describes are "extremists" within Pueblos Sin Fronteras.

 - From Mexico.com:

Migrantes Son Utilizados Por Pueblo Sin Fronteras Para Trafica Armas: Solalinde


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What next?  Apparently there is rumor that some of the migrantes will participate in a  hunger strike starting today, Frontera will update us.  Meanwhile, we were in Tijuana yesterday after my Doctors appointment and to say it is tense is an understatement.  You could cut the tension with a knife and people are frightened.

Right now it just started raining, it is supposed to come down heavy during the day - what will happen to the migrantes?  If someone doesn't find shelter for them, they are going to be soaking and freezing  from the rain.  Here are some links, you can read about the birth in the camp, the outbreak of chicken pox and other health issues at the baseball field, and after the disaster on Sunday, 100+ migrantes leave Tijuana and Mexico on their own accord. Dreams broken, thanks Pueblo Sin Fronteras Extremists Idiots !!

 I am so angry at this Pueblos Sin Fronteras I could scream...but I am also wondering if they hired the strongmen to infiltrate the caravana from President of Guatemala Jimmy "The Rat" Moreles and President Hernandez's  (the puppets of the USA.) criminal gangs.

El Sol de Tijuana:

Caravana Migrante


Frontera:

Caravana Migrante 

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